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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:58 AM
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Episcopal bishops reject traditionalist demands...
It is incumbent upon us as disciples to do our best to follow Jesus in the increasing experience of the leading of the Holy Spirit. We fully understand that others in the Communion believe the same, but we do not believe that Jesus leads us to break our relationships. We proclaim the Gospel of what God has done and is doing in Christ, of the dignity of every human being, and of justice, compassion, and peace. We proclaim the Gospel that in Christ there is no Jew or Greek, no male or female, no slave or free. We proclaim the Gospel that in Christ all God's children, including women, are full and equal participants in the life of Christ's Church. We proclaim the Gospel that in Christ all God's children, including gay and lesbian persons, are full and equal participants in the life of Christ's Church. We proclaim the Gospel that stands against any violence, including violence done to women and children as well as those who are persecuted because of their differences, often in the name of God. The Dar es Salaam Communiqué is distressingly silent on this subject. And, contrary to the way the Anglican Communion Network and the American Anglican Council have represented us, we proclaim a Gospel that welcomes diversity of thought and encourages free and open theological debate as a way of seeking God's truth. If that means that others reject us and communion with us, as some have already done, we must with great regret and sorrow accept their decision.

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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:02 AM
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1. Christ would be proud!
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:07 AM
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2. I take exception, however, with "traditionalists"
Those who wish to make a Christian religion exclusive are not following the Christian tradition. Christ only condemned the money changers in the temple. He preached love and acceptance. In fact, God became human to show by example because people were misinterpreting the Old Testament. Those who throw Old Testament lines to support some form of hate or exclusion in the Christian religion are not Christians i the truest sense of the word.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 06:52 AM
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4. Agreed nt
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 06:52 AM
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3. What wonderful news!
I'm so very glad for this response!
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:56 AM
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5. I'm glad the bishops stepped up.
They did the right thing, and this is great news.

A wonderful, reasoned response. I hope Jefferts Schori takes it to heart.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 04:33 PM
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6. The core of this discussion
Edited on Wed Mar-21-07 04:35 PM by kwassa
In essence, the Global South primates are trying a hostile takeover of the American church.

http://www.episcopalchurch.org/3577_84148_ENG_HTM.htm

Other Anglican bishops, indeed including some Primates, have violated our provincial boundaries and caused great suffering and contributed immeasurably to our difficulties in solving our problems and in attempting to communicate for ourselves with our Anglican brothers and sisters. We have been repeatedly assured that boundary violations are inappropriate under the most ancient authorities and should cease. The Lambeth Conferences of 1988 and 1998 did so. The Windsor Report did so. The Dromantine Communiqué did so. None of these assurances has been heeded. The Dar es Salaam Communiqué affirms the principle that boundary violations are impermissible, but then sets conditions for ending those violations, conditions that are simply impossible for us to meet without calling a special meeting of our General Convention.

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we believe that to participate in the Primates' Pastoral scheme would be injurious to The Episcopal Church for many reasons.

First, it violates our church law in that it would call for a delegation of primatial authority not permissible under our Canons and a compromise of our autonomy as a Church not permissible under our Constitution.

Second, it fundamentally changes the character of the Windsor process and the covenant design process in which we thought all the Anglican Churches were participating together.

Third, it violates our founding principles as The Episcopal Church following our own liberation from colonialism and the beginning of a life independent of the Church of England.

Fourth, it is a very serious departure from our English Reformation heritage. It abandons the generous orthodoxy of our Prayer Book tradition. It sacrifices the emancipation of the laity for the exclusive leadership of high-ranking Bishops. And, for the first time since our separation from the papacy in the 16th century, it replaces the local governance of the Church by its own people with the decisions of a distant and unaccountable group of prelates.
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