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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:07 PM Original message |
One problem I have with organized religion is they often have the idea that people are inherently |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm with you, raccoon. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. George Carlin has a wonderful piece of comedy to that effect |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. If organized religion cannot offer salvation from inherent evil and punishment for bad deeds...what |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. Kids are born atheist and totally selfish |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. Heard a RW a-hole on the radio the other day saying "When it's your time, you're gone. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Your last paragraph is well said! nt |
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skater314159 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. As a working chaplain... |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:22 AM Response to Reply #15 |
27. I usually don't listen to this ahole ... but it's the one for traffic, maybe |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
7. this is why i am a Buddhist, we arent Atheists, we believe all sentient beings are Buddha's >Link>> |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Correct me if I'm wrong... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Their are many types of Buddhism. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I guess I always fancied Buddhism, though would never call myself one... |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Buddhism is not a Religion, it is most correctly described as a psychology, a method for training th... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Buddhism and dogma. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Some branches are more contemplative, others more ritualistic |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. the Shakyamuni Buddha drew up the Wheel of Life as a teaching tool, yes there are other forms that |
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denim_kittens (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:56 AM Response to Reply #23 |
43. His Holiness is... |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
8. Religion |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
9. IMO religion was created to gain control of the people and it's a form of government |
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skater314159 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. Man, this is why as a Chaplain I disagree with a LOT |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Amen. nt |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. But I think it's hard to argue that this sort of view... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
25. There is one thought that Christianity religion purposely included the OT |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
11. I think we're all inherently *flawed* - but that's far different from |
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skater314159 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Hey... I wasn't gonna mention that "C" word... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Yeah |
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skater314159 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Yep... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. That's well put. You're absolutely right! nt |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #11 |
34. It's funny, but if human beings didn't have some of those flaws, we would |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:12 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. True enough |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
13. People aren't inherently bad |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
28. That always bothered me too |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
29. Not the Eastern Orthodox Church. It's part of why we're not Catholic. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. And I think in general, the Orthodox view on issues like this is |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Very true. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. It might depend a good deal depending on the synagogue |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Thanks for the insight. |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Actually, non-orthodox Jewish services are influenced by protestant services |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Interesting. |
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Rob H. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
37. I know someone who attends a church like that |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
39. Well, the whole idea of a god is that they are a higher order of being. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
40. I've always viewed "original sin" as a theological restatement of the common saying |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:20 AM Response to Original message |
41. As much as I've drifted away from my religious upbringing over the past year. |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
44. Then you are quite free to not join in or not participate. |
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