not all christians love W

[angrycarpenter]

check this out
http://www.bushisantichrist.com/
George W Bush is the AntiChrist !

TL,DR but there is a lot of weird stuff there.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

1. Christians are not a monolith

in spite of what some want us to believe

[napi21]

2. No they don't! My cousin is a Minister, and he & his wife detest

Shrub! I've talked to them often about politics, and although they disagree with Dems on the abortion issue, they agree with them on almost everything else. They also disagree with religious groups accepting Fed. $$. I asked why, and they said that nothing ever comes without strings, and they didn't want to be attached to any.

[autorank]

3. He's got it about right;)

Seriously, that's some heavy duty stuff. I agree with about half of it and the other half escapes me,
but rock on Mr. Hatchett.

We had a little thread here a day or two ago about major scientists questioning the natural selection
segment of the theory of evolution. The poster, a loyal DUer got creamed from moment one for posting
Christian propaganda. The issue and science had nothing to do with religion, nor did the scientists
but the reflexive response was to bash the new thinking as having a religious motivation. Very
disappointing.

Here's how I see it. We have the most exquisitely controlled information system in this country.
Unless you're a news and truth seeker with a vengeance, you've got a lot of mind bending nonsense
passed out as news. Those who bought this are waking up. It's much better to be welcoming than
it is to scoff and ridicule them for their beliefs.

[TZ]

7. You STILL don't get it

You and the OP got LEGITIMATELY bashed for posting pseudoscientific CRAP!!
Once again your lack of understanding of what the conference is really about and how DISTORTED a spin that god awful journalist put on it shines through.
If you REALLY want to LEARN about evolutionary biology
READ WHAT ONE OF THE ORGANIZERS SAYS:
http://rationallyspeaking.blogspot.com/2008/07/is-there-fundamental-scientific.html
Whatever the journalists "agenda" fact is they were using the SAME arguments as the Discovery Institute..a creationist think tank.
You really don't understand what a scientific conferences are about do you?
Jeebus I get tired of people not having a scientific clue around here.

[autorank]

17. I get it,

Your arguments and the style of those in your crew display no tolerance like many who align with one
belief and proclaim it pure and unassailable. You've no entered the enforcement stage.

Aside from the arguments on that thread, the style of delivery by the science enforcers was revealing.
There was a lot of swearing and anger. It indicated no sense of objectivity or even confidence in the
arguments due to the histrionics. What kind of science is that?

[napoleon_in_rags]

4. Its overwhelming though, the pressures on Christians.

I was reading a Bible at work and a coworker talked to me about some ideas related, and it was nice. Next thing I know he's telling me about Newt Gringrich's latest show on prayer in schools, and other right wing stuff. All he saw was a bible and assumed, its that deep in the culture.

[Goblinmonger]

8. I feel for you

It must be tough to be a Christian in today's society.

[Sanctified]

5. There are lots of Christians who dislike Bush and the mixing of Christianity with Politics.

I am currently reading, "Jesus for President" and it's quickly becoming a favorite book of mine.

http://www.jesusforpresident.org/ (The Intro on the website is the intro from the book and it pretty much sums up my feelings.)

http://zondervan.typepad.com/zondervan/2008/03/jesus-for-pre-1.html

[Adsos Letter]

6. Americans United for Separation of Church and State...

Run by an ordained Christian minister, and heavily funded by Christians who detest the mixing of Church and State.

They and the ACLU get plenty of my monetary support.

[Goblinmonger]

9. The guy writing this web page

is fucking crazy. You do know that, right.

[beam me up scottie]

11. No kidding.

"MA-BUS" is also short for ‘the AMerican, Bush’, just by inverting the first two letters and leaving out the last H, which is already silent in Latin languages like French, the language of Nostradamus. It is also a combination of MR.Bush, where the R looks like a capital A. Mabus is also a combination of MAgog and Bush, a reference to Bush’s given name in a Satanic cult. (Bush was named ‘Magog’ in the scull and bones society.) Homework assignment: Write down the first two letters of Mabus – Ma, turn them around 180 degrees, and hold it up to a mirror, Mabus becomes gW Bush. Note: Nostradamus also misspelled that Hitler's name, calling him "Hister" (Hysterical Hitler?)

Slowly back away from the keyboard and put the mouse down ...

This is one of those people they really shouldn't hold up as a shining example of liberal christians in America.

[cosmik debris]

13. Really, I thought it was satire.

I guess I've been reading the New Yorker too much.

:)

[Goblinmonger]

15. Nice

Actually, I thought it was satire, too, but it goes on WAY too long and in-depth to be satire. It did provide me with a good laugh, though.

[knitter4democracy]

10. Don't get our priest started.

As per the liturgy, he has to pray for the president every Sunday, but he always pauses a wee bit to get a breath. He can't stand that idiot, and neither can most of us in our church. Orthodox tend to be pretty liberal, though we have a couple of right-wingers in our church everyone gives a wide berth during coffee hour and makes sure not to bring up politics around them.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

12. We've got that in our liturgy, too, (no matter who the pres is) and I try to interpret it as

"May he not do too much more damage."

[knitter4democracy]

14. I do, too.

:)

When we pray for the troops, I add, "and bring them home now."

[norepubsin08]

16. I am the chair person of what is called

The MICAH Project (Peace and Justice advocacy) which works out of First United Methodist Church...after careful discernment and prayer we have come to realization that much of what Bush stands for (and by association, the Republican Party of today) is anathema to the teachings and more to the point: the service and ministry that Christ had here on earth and that which we Christian profess to follow. While being careful not to weigh directly in on politics and individual candidates, we have felt from day one of the Bush administration that it is our duty to oppose policies that harm human dignity, safety and freedom. It is our obligation to affirm the marginalized and oppressed. This has been sorely lacking in this administration and not given enough priority in last presidential administration either.