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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 06:19 AM
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Atheists Sue Kentucky Homeland Security Agency
Atheists sue Ky. homeland security agency

UPI
Published: Dec. 3, 2008 at 2:02 PM


http://homelandsecurity.ky.gov/">

FRANKFORT, Ky., Dec. 3 (UPI) -- American Atheists sued the Kentucky Office of Homeland Security over a provision that makes recognizing divine protection part of its duties.

The suit filed Tuesday asks a state court to throw out unconstitutional language in the law setting up the office, the Lexington Herald-Leader reported. It also seeks financial compensation for 10 plaintiffs, claiming they suffered mental anguish from knowing "their very safety as residents of Kentucky may be in the hands of fanatics, traitors or fools."

State Rep. Tom Riner of Louisville, a Democrat and Southern Baptist minister, inserted the language into the 2006 law, but it apparently went unnoticed until recently.

Edwin Kagan, a lawyer in Boone County who serves as American Atheists' national legal director, said he learned of the language last week. The law requires the office to install a plaque recognizing God as the state's protector in its emergency operations center and to include that language in its reports.

"This is one of the most outrageous things I've seen in 35 years of practicing law. It's breathtakingly unconstitutional," Kagin said.

American Atheists is based in Parsippany, N.J.


http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/12/03/Atheists_sue_Ky_homeland_security_agency/UPI-18561228330953/">LINK

- What is it with these guys and their damned plaques?! Does putting words on a plaque somehow transform the fantasy into reality? "I see the words on a plaque -- therefore it all must be real."

On the other hand, I can't say that I'm actually sure I'm clear about what this "provision" is saying anyway. Maybe its in the wording.

Does the provision where is says: "makes recognizing divine protection part of its duties", mean that the divine protection we're now getting should be taken as a given and that it is, therefore, the best we can expect? (now there's a scary thought) Or, are we god's bodyguards now? Are we suppose to be recognizing that protecting god is a homeland security issue? And therefore fungible? Well, in the State of Kentucky anyways.

You know, this was all so much easier back when it was just about animal sacrifice. You either had the goats or you didn't....

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:26 AM
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1. Leave the Christians ALONE!
Emo mode OFF
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 10:04 AM
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2. I WILL!!!! I WILL!!!

As soon as they give us our government baaaacccck....


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 11:11 AM
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3. If god wants credit, then he needs to show-up when bills are debated. n/t
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 11:52 AM
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4. If he wants credit, he also gets the blame.
God let 3000 people die on 9/11 because he was doing such a shitty job.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 11:59 AM
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6. And we can add those to the....
...other http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-many-has-god-killed-complete-list.html">33 million already accounted for.

- If you're scoring at home....

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 11:55 AM
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5. I'm not for certain....
...but I think this provision that the good Rev put into that bill, means that as far as he's concerned, there is no debate when god's involved.


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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 09:36 AM
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7. Eye on KY? I had my eye on some ky last night..
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 09:46 AM
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8. Hahahahahaha......
:rofl: - And I'm certain that's what they were thinkin' when they came up with that motto.....
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 12:54 PM
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9. Great comic at the bottom! nt.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 05:45 PM
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10. Here's another favorite of mine....

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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 05:55 PM
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11. Your punch line reminded me of a favorite of mine
From Landover Baptists http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0506/watchingyoupoo.html

Dear Pastor,

My momma tells me I had better behave myself, on account of Jesus is always watching. She says He sees EVERYTHING that I am doing. Does that mean that Jesus is even staring at me every time I pull down my pants to go poopy?

Yours in Christ,

- Sue Ellen



Dear Sue Ellen,

Yes child, your mother is right; Jesus does see all. But unlike a Peeping Tom who is only able to catch a glimpse of you on the toilet through the window, the good Lord Jesus is all over your business, sniffing out every nook and cranny of your vile, sinful little body. Praise His holy name!

You see, Jesus knows that toilet time is also a dangerous time for young ladies like yourself – filled with horrid temptations of the flesh. After all, this – along with shower time – is one of the only occasions when True Christians™ have a legitimate reason to be briefly touching their filthy sex parts. This is why Jesus carefully monitors every second spent in the bathroom, to ensure that you make haste, and no fingers go lingering around and get lost in the dirty, stinky parts of your body.

So yes, Jesus is watching you, sweetheart, but don’t worry; there’s nothing in your panties that He hasn’t seen before. Indeed, it was Jesus and His daddy who intelliguntly desined every contour and crevice of your little hoochie and poop chute, which He carefully sculpted in celestial wax before miniaturizing and beaming you inside the incubation chamber you might know better as “mommy.”

Of course, foolish liberals and depraved sex maniacs maintain that since it was God who created us in His image, this means that every part of our bodies is Godly – including our unmentionables. This is utter nonsense, of course! For just like liquor, drugs, gambling and all the books, music, and movies that are actually entertaining, your disgusting parts were created by God to TEST you, child – which is why you would do well to always express the requisite degree of intense revulsion at the very sight of your own nakedness.

Remember child, Jesus loves you, which is the reason He’s taking time out of His very busy schedule creating tornadoes and earthquakes and giving folks cancer to watch you squat down and do nature's business! If you doubt, me - just take our Bible Poop Quiz to see how obsessed the Lord is with excrement.

So, young lady- the next time you’re making a doo-doo, don’t be shy. Be thankful, child! Verily, take comfort by gazing heavenward as you push and squeal like a sweet naked sow in the mud; then at the very moment you hear an audible plop in the water beneath your soft naked rump, you can give Jesus a little wave hello!

God Bless You,

- Pastor

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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 06:02 PM
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13. Funny!
Although, the Bible is clear: He doesn't use celestial wax, he uses yarn. We are knitted in our mothers' wombs, you know. ;)
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 08:13 PM
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15. I just love Landover.....
...they're my favorite Baptists!!!! And of course it's the home church of Mrs. Betty Bowers. America's Best Christian!!!!!



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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:43 AM
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17. .
:spray:
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 06:00 PM
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12. They should sue over that, and others should join in.
That's blatantly wrong, and really, it's not needed. This isn't God's country anymore than any other country is.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 08:05 PM
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14. And speaking of godless countries......

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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-09 10:04 AM
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16. Very good point.
:rofl:
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