Who created God?

[begin_within]

Just kinda wondering

[Iggo]

1. God's mom.

[begin_within]

2. And who created her?

[kwassa]

70. God's grand-mom.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. "Man is the only animal to have found the One True GOD...several of them." Mark Twain

Or, you could say created several of them.

[StarryNite]

4. God came out of an egg.

Proving that with chickens as well as with gods, the eggs come first.

[begin_within]

5. Then who created the egg?

[StarryNite]

11. Eggs don't need a creator...

they just are.

[begin_within]

32. So the universe started out as an egg?

[Joe Chi Minh]

6. Ask any science "fundie" on here, He'll tell you.

[bperci108]

15. Okay, I'll bite....

What's a "science fundie"?

:popcorn:

[patrice]

46. Actually, science fundies do not speak of that which cannot be empirically validated.

By definition (which is a laugh in itself) God, is something about which science fundies have nothing to say.

Talking about things which can't be validated one way or the other is the job of religious fundies.

[Random_Australian]

66. Ooooh! I'm a science fundy, and I'm here to say that there is no evidence of anything that created

God.
Also, there is no evidence of God existing.

[tabatha]

where does the universe end?

and what is on the other side?

[begin_within]

24. Bombay Beach, California

and on the other side is the Salton Sea. According to Einstein's theories, the dimensions of space and time themselves are curbed by gravity - the combined gravitational pull of all the matter in the universe. This causes the dimensions themselves to curve around and meet up with whatever beginning point you arbitrarily chose. In the same way that a circle has no beginning or end point. In the same way, the universe itself has no absolute beginning or end. The exact size of the universe can be calculated knowing the total mass contained in the universe. I don't know what the most recent estimate is but you could find out by looking around on physics web sites.

[patrice]

47. ("...curved...") - - - - Very Cool post!!

:hi:

What, on Earth, is that in that picture?

[suston96]

35. Where does the universe end? It doesn't. Because it has no beginning.

I watched a Stephen Hawkings thing on the National Geo or one of those. It was about his work on finding how the universe began and the "theory of everything".

The last thing he said after two hours of mind bending hypos - Personally? I believe there is no beginning or end to the universe. It just goes on and on and on...

[lunatica]

7. Man did

And the stuff of stars created man. And I'll have to get back to you on who created the stuff of stars...

[carlyhippy]

8. yyeeahhh, no one talks about what happened before God

go to the religion rooms and ask....

[theoldman]

9. God was created in our minds.

First we were afraid to die and needed a place to go. Then we needed to create someone to greet us when we got to that place.

[bperci108]

18. I'm stealing that.

A nice succinct way of putting it. :)

[patrice]

57. I'd just add: First we became conscious of "individualism", then we became afraid to die etc.

:hi:

[marew]

23. Exactly!

[TahitiNut]

Or vice versa.

:shrug:

[patrice]

53. HEY You!! How come you don't have a post number???

:hi:

[Occam Bandage]

49. A nice enough proposal, but at odds with the history of religion.

The concept of heaven is a relative newcomer; early Judaism had nothing to say about the afterlife, but was rather focused on creating and preserving a cultural identity as the chosen few of God. Christianity was somewhat novel in its obsession with death and rebirth, as well as in its personal, caring God.

[vixengrl]

73. Like a maitre Dei.

n/t

[valerief]

10. For the modern version, I think it was the monks of the Middle Ages. nt

[elocs]

12. Since DU apparently has the answer to everything, this one should be easy.

The really tough one is why did the chicken cross the road?

[theoldman]

26. The chicken crossed the road to show the skunks, possums, frogs, etc.

that it could be done.

[laconicsax]

56. Blasphemy!

There will be a reckoning for heretics like you! The chicken crossed the road because the skunks, possums, frogs, etc. showed that it could be done. Yours is just another post proving how disrespectful of religion this site is! I would have expected more tolerance of people's different faiths on a liberal site!




:rofl:

[immoderate]

71. Too far to go around.

--imm

[burythehatchet]

13. When the feeling of love was first conceptualized, that man or woman created God.

[patrice]

58. Change "love" to "affinity" and "conceptualized" to "experienced" and I'll go with that and even

remove the " ".

:hi:

[KittyWampus]

14. Since Consciousness is non-local, it isn't subject to a beginning or end as finite matter is.

[TahitiNut]

34. Is "IS" even definable without an "ISN'T"?

:dunce: How does "conscious" contemplate itself? "Conscious" of WHAT?

[FarCenter]

38. Consciousness is local

It is the result of electrochemical processes in your brain.

[KittyWampus]

54. reality itself is non-local as science has proven recently.

[Lucian]

16. God doesn't exist.

The only creator god has is man. Man created god.

[Dreamer Tatum]

19. Well, that settles that.

Thanks for weighing in.

[Lucian]

27. Don't hate me because I'm right.

[timtom]

51. Quite certain of that?

[AyanRand Is Dead]

17. I wasn't man.

God IS Creation.

[TahitiNut]

20. "Discovery" isn't the same as "creation."

:shrug:

How does "is" have meaning? What does "being" and "existence" itself mean? How can there be a "beginning" to EXISTENCE itself? How can there be an "end" to EXISTENCE itself? Can there be a meaning to "IS" where there's no "ISN'T"? When ALL there "is" is "is" then what's needed? Can there be a "discovery" without "ignorance"?

[DearAbby]

21. Let's go a step further....

Why would there be a need to create a GOD?

[The Straight Story]

22. The big god bang, god just came into existence magically

:)

[TahitiNut]

30. How did "existence" itself begin?

What is "IS"? What's "time"? Can "time" itself begin?

:dunce:

[The Straight Story]

37. Ask clinton about the first one

:rofl:

[Tuesday Afternoon]

25. The Great Big Holy Fuckarolli...duh.

:yoiks:

[VPStoltz]

28. I was just discussing this with my partner the other day.

Being a recovering alcoholic AND recovering Catholic my take on it is that human beings all the way back into time can "hit bottom." They would get to a point where they were just completely flummoxed by things and had to give up, step back, and look at it from another angle. The fact that they didn't consciously decide to "hit bottom" and change direction was left to a force outside themselves. Originally, it was the sun, the moon, etc. that later became human in the form of "The Gods," who were also given the power of all physical change on earth that couldn't be explain at the time. Eventually, the Jews and other early religions became monotheistic. The Christians wanted to be saved from this mess, so they invented Christ the Savior.

[Fgiriun]

29. I know!!!

Evidently, man created god and destroyed gods. Man has also created and destroyed other man. Regardless on whether someone believes in god or not god means something different to everyone. The human mind is responsible for the existence of god. Man is also responsible for the big bang and the creation of universe as we know it out of an experiment originating from the Large Hadron Collider later this year.

[Ezlivin]

31. The first woman to achieve orgasm

"Oh god, oh god, oh god!"

[dustbunnie]

33. A group of wizened, old nomadic elders doing damage control?

Wondering how they could get the young-ens to stop procreating all over the place and actually do some chores around the village? So they pieced together some colorful, rag tag mythology and repackaged it into the one all-knowing, all-seeing God who had all kinds of rules to keep people out of trouble? And of course, this God only magically presented himself to an elder or two, who then translated "his word" for the others.

[patrice]

55. !!! Love it!! . . . bet that's not far from the Truth!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:hi: Thanks! dustbunnie! :hi:

[mitchum]

36. The priestly class...the first parasitic class

[CanSocDem]

44. Ah yes...finally!! (eom)

[killbotfactory]

39. Time travellers from the future

They really fucked things up for everybody.

[dgibby]

40. Um, the flying spaghetti monster?

[Subdivisions]

45. All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster...

[patrice]

48. a.k.a. Cthulu the Omnivorent!!!!

[sniffa]

41. Man

[omega minimo]

42. Who's on first.

[patrice]

43. "Who" "created" "God" "?" "We" "did""." . . . and of course . . . " " "

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

50. That

from which all things are created. That has no existence, no time, is bound by no concepts, yet is the atom, the electron, and the "empty" space between them.

[Occam Bandage]

52. Well, from what perspective?

From a Marxist perspective, the parasitic ruling class.
From one sociological perspective, religion is an internalized reflection of the fears/desires of a society.
From a common atheist perspective, religion is an early and flawed attempt to explain natural phenomena or impose social order.
From a Christian perspective, God is eternal and without creation; a human asking of the creation of God is akin to a stick-figure asking what type of pencil was used to draw his artist.

[Locrian]

59. there y'all go again - thinking in linear time space....

Take away time and ask that question.

[muriel_volestrangler]

65. Without time, what does 'create' mean?

[begin_within]

60. God has moved this thread to the cry room.

[ZombieHorde]

61. My guess would be Gary Gygax, the greatest man who ever lived. nt

[rug]

62. No one.

[cosmik debris]

63. I did and I apologize. n/t

[begin_within]

68. I like this answer best

[Silent3]

64. The standard answer, of course, is that God is eternal...

...both past and future, and needed no creation. Oddly enough, however, this answer is often given by those who think the universe itself couldn't possibly come into existence with a God the Creator to do the job, thus accepting the idea that something can exist without having to be created, but needlessly assigning that capability to an extra non-observable entity rather than to the observable universe itself.

[Meshuga]

67. Which one?

And which nature of the one you have in mind?

[spin]

69. Perhaps God is what was before there was anything.

[immoderate]

72. Yeah, god is the absence of everything.

--imm

[GliderGuider]

74. Whose God?

Yours or mine?

More seriously, the fact that the question cannot be answered in this (physical/temporal/philosophical/noetic) framework implies that the difficulty may be more with the chosen framework than the question.

I'm quite content to let the answer remain personal, since the question is more about the asker than the answer.

[Marrah_G]

75. Maybe Gods/Godesses Evolved...............

Wouldn't that be a kick in the ass to the creationists?