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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:22 PM Original message |
What’s your proof that your God exists? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. Theists just know there is a god |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. you don't have to KNOW a god exists to be a theist |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. What part of "haven't seen any evidence" didn't you get? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. i wasn't referring to atheists at all |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
54. Then that would make you an agnostic theist |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
136. Published as a collected volume... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
69. Concisely put, Warpy |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
90. Two words that Xians need to retire ASAP are "just" and "know," |
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benld74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. r u saying one doesn't? |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. Everyone has their own perception of whether or not God exists and they have a right to their views |
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GirlAfire (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
167. That Sums It Up |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 08:48 AM Response to Reply #167 |
168. Would that more people had the attitude shared by you and bkkyosemite. |
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GirlAfire (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #168 |
169. I love it here! |
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Amerigo Vespucci (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
4. I don't need to convince anyone, and I don't care who believes |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
5. "... us"? |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
7. If God = love and I feel love, then I am God. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
81. I don't understand why people take such liberal definitions of words... |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
8. The late John Templeton |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
9. Why should I try to convince you, or anyone? nt |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
78. Why not? |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #78 |
132. I'm fascinated with atheists who insist others prove the existence of god. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-27-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #132 |
165. Theists state that a god exists, the burden of proof is upon them to back up their assertion |
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ComposMentis (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #78 |
139. Why not? Because it just stirs up the haters |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
10. Gödel's incompleteness theorems |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
11. Prove there is no God. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
40. I know what you mean, just check out any cat killer thread and you will see lots of intolerance. nt |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
146. So why would anyone believe it then? |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #146 |
166. Brings forth an interesting question...What has that word "god" always meant? |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 06:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
181. Asking for evidence of God is intolerant? |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
12. Is that a dare? |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
13. ... |
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Tace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
14. Logic |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
177. Darwin's theory is "The Origin of Species by Natural Selection" |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
15. Still waiting…… |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. So am I, since you did not reply to #10 |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Then come over to my thread and prove the contrary. |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Tell us what your proof is that your god exists first |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I don't have any, and neither do you, so let's end this charade. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
91. What charade? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-04-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
79. Youre thread is disingenous and lame |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. You only waited 20 minutes before posting this comment. |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Next time, don't ask for a proof, if you don't know what one looks like |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
17. Evolution is proof. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Read Dawkins' |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
53. Dawkins seems to fall in to the same egotistical trap as the creationists, |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. You don't see anything wrong with claiming to know something about Dawkin's work |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Just from the excerpts as I stated. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. OK, please read the book |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #53 |
105. But if an omnipotent god really existed, there wouldn't be any blind pianists |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #105 |
124. Why do you believe that? n/t |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #124 |
148. He would not have fucked-up by making him or her blind. nt |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. 1. That may not have been a mistake but a necessity to reach the required result. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
147. That's nonsense. There is nothing egotistical about his argument. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #147 |
151. To the contrary I don't view us a pinnacle or proof of a creator or denial of such. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
56. Wrong, Evolution has no goal. Purpose only exists in the minds of sapient entities |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I would view survival as a goal, no matter how primitive. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Only sentient individuals with minds can have goals. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Would your definition of sentient individuals include dogs, chimpanzees, dolphins |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Yes. Sentience is not a yes-no dichotomy. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Maybe someone should try a Pavlov's Dog experiment on a tree, |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #60 |
71. Of course they can't hear but I imagine trees and plants are sensitive to light and temperature. |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #56 |
72. exactly - we are not moving toward any type of evolution endgame. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. That could still be purpose. n/t |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
82. So you believe in intelligent design? |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. Yes, seriously. Life; no matter how primitive signifies will, will signifies purpose, |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-31-09 03:19 AM Response to Reply #88 |
94. A. Stop making up definitions for words... |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-31-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. No evolution implies that life proceeds, changes, thrives and progresses based on errors and mistake |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-05-09 05:47 AM Response to Reply #95 |
205. You don't know what "intelligent design" means. That is very clear here. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-05-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #205 |
208. I believe, should you check out the dictionary, you will find. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #88 |
145. Darwinism excludes purpose. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #145 |
152. In regards to evolution, I view the system of randomness as intelligent. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #152 |
178. So what is the purpose of life? |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #178 |
182. To survive and evolve. n/t |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #182 |
187. That's a process, not a purpose. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #187 |
189. I believe the process is purpose. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #189 |
192. I believe the vessel with the pestle... |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-02-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #192 |
196. The ironic thing about the real Court Jesters, is that they were the only ones |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #189 |
194. As the journey is more important than the destination. n/t |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-02-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #194 |
197. That's what they say, but furthermore a journey is evidence of a destination. n/t |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-02-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #197 |
198. A Buddhist would disagree with you, |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-02-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #198 |
199. I partially agree with the Buddhist circular concept of reality but the circles continue to multiply |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
179. What nonsense! |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #179 |
183. I don't know how things will be different. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #183 |
188. I was busy with sudoku... |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #188 |
190. That was a wise way to pass your time, I read sudoku can hinder the progression of Alzheimer's |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
19. Ok, since this is such a tough question, just tell us where your God lives then |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Wait at least a few hours before changing the question. |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. The original question is still there. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Good luck. |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
23. In another thread this picture was posted. In my view, I think this picture says alot. |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
106. It was stolen from a Fundie billboard campaign and is just dumb. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
29. No proof for or against as far a I can see. So you have an equal burden of proof that he doesn't |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
31. Have none, expect none, want none |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
33. If God is willing to prevent evil, |
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Sal316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Epicurius was a simpleton. |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Or either god doesn’t exist |
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Sal316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Or option c.... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Evil things don't necessarily have to come from people. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Oh pleeeeeeeeease guys, grow up and grow an argument! |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
66. No need to make it personal. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Nothing “personal” about the generic ‘guys’ |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Oops, I forgot to add a subject line, so here is my subject line. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. That's a lame subject line compared to mine |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-03-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Are we bastards because we could foresee such events... |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
138. bing! bing! bing! bing! |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. What about God's mess. Shouldn't he clean that up? nt |
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Sal316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 12:32 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. What, exactly, is his mess? |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. That untidy bit on the left of the crab nebula |
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Sal316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 12:55 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. haha..thanks for the laugh. n/t |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
74. Diseases, such as malaria, are pretty messy. nt |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
55. Or maybe he (as Voltaire did) saw through the "Dr. Pangloss" rationalizations. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
137. So, what sin did this kid commit? |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #137 |
140. The unforgivable sin of not being born a white American to good Christian parents. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:24 AM Response to Reply #34 |
153. Simpleton? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
180. Well, according to the Bible, it was God who created evil. |
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Sal316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
35. What's your proof for.. |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. It's more plausible than any supernatural being. |
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Sal316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 10:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. How so? |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
67. We know that proteins can form themselves. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 11:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Ah, the 'God of the gaps.' |
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Sal316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Whatever you say Mr. Mills. |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
68. Sal, do you even know what you're talking abut here? |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
83. I am by no means a scientist. But you are making a fool of yourself... |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
170. Just because we don't have it now |
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Interloper (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
38. Sentients |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
39. I wish I had a banana with me |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
51. And they will forge their swords into plowblades, and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #51 |
107. Yeah, that whole "swords into plowshares" thing has worked out really well. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:00 AM Response to Reply #107 |
113. The cry of Isaiah is not a magic incantation but a call to make an existential choice |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
52. Where's your proof you can discern nonmaterial existence? |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
61. What evidence could they have? |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
80. Refer to my sig line. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
84. They can not...that is why it is called FAITH.. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Belief in something when you have zero evidence isn't just faith, |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. religion encourages both, blind faith and false hope... |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 03:59 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. There is a distinction between ‘evidence’ and ‘proof’. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
89. Why do I need to prove anything to you? Why should I care what you think? |
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geistvomeinzelganger (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
92. God exists |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:38 AM Response to Reply #92 |
118. "He has made Himself very much a reality to me and I KNOW He exists" |
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geistvomeinzelganger (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #118 |
201. Seek and ye shall find |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #92 |
171. Apples to idiotic military planning. |
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geistvomeinzelganger (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #171 |
202. Tumbleweeds |
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ffellini7080 (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-26-09 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
93. There isn't any |
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Azooz (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-31-09 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
96. The Quran |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-31-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. WTF? |
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Azooz (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-31-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. It's a bit more than my opinion |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. The Joke Is Appreciated, Sir, But That Is All It Can Possibly Be |
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Azooz (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Yes, but how else can it get the point across? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #103 |
125. Whether It Originates With You or In A Book, Sir |
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Azooz (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. That is easy to say without knowing Arabic |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Son, You Need To Stop, take A Deep Breath, And Listen To The Fatuous Nonesense You Are Spouting |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Again, WTF are you spewing about? |
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Azooz (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. There is no such page |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. For proof, learn arabic? |
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Azooz (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. Learning Arabic helps |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:31 AM Response to Reply #110 |
115. SO, I should just "accept it as fact"? |
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Azooz (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 06:24 AM Response to Reply #115 |
119. Testable and verifiable proof, would be that one page |
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moggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 06:54 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. What objective standard could be used to judge that? |
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Azooz (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #121 |
123. That's the easy part |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #119 |
122. You keep stating your opinion as fact. |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. Magnoon! |
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Azooz (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. That's what the Quran said you would say :) |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:42 AM Response to Reply #109 |
114. Assalaamu alaykum Azooz |
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Azooz (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 06:39 AM Response to Reply #114 |
120. Wa-alaykom alsalaam |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #120 |
128. I find it interesting |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:33 AM Response to Reply #109 |
116. "I am really not into proselytizing, this claim is from the Quran itself" - Which proves nothing. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #96 |
149. The Koran proves Muslims exist, not God. |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #96 |
172. That just begs the question: "How do you know it's true?" |
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Azooz (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #172 |
191. Same way you could |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
101. You will not get an answer because there is no proof. Period. |
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emdistortion (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
111. There is no argument for the existence of a God. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:34 AM Response to Reply #111 |
117. "faith is the ability to convince yourself of something without explanation or reason" |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
112. Having a "dance, monkey...DANCE" moment, eh? |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
129. God is experienced, not proven. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Experienced? |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. The experience itself exists, beyond that, who knows. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. But thats the point |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. A lot of problems arise when people push their beliefs on others. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:42 AM Response to Reply #133 |
154. Incorrect |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #130 |
135. It’s a good question… |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #135 |
141. The experience is fairly consistent |
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arKansasJHawk (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. But is an "experience" GOD? |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:32 AM Response to Reply #142 |
143. Is that your definition of God? |
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arKansasJHawk (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #143 |
144. Defining God |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #144 |
156. Great Spirit |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:52 AM Response to Reply #135 |
155. The good question |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 02:57 AM Response to Original message |
157. For now, there is no objective evidence for God |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 03:04 AM Response to Reply #157 |
158. Well |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 03:12 AM Response to Reply #158 |
159. Excuse me, but I'm not following |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #159 |
161. How was All divided? |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #161 |
173. O.o |
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geistvomeinzelganger (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #157 |
203. There is PLENTY of evidence that GOD exists |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
160. they can't prove it and that is why they are so NASTY to you |
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geistvomeinzelganger (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #160 |
204. Proving God's existance... |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-05-09 08:24 AM Response to Reply #204 |
206. You are under the impression |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-20-09 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
162. When I was in the medical field, I helped care for a little girl with a brain tumor... |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #162 |
164. So your definition of God... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #164 |
174. That's not my definition since I don't believe a god exists.. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #174 |
175. Suffering is sometimes necessary. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-30-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. It is insane to think this suffering had any kind of benefit to anyone... |
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frogmarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #175 |
185. Mother Teresa was big on suffering. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #175 |
186. That's sadistic. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-02-09 07:48 AM Response to Reply #175 |
195. Why is it that girl's responsibility to suffer for someone else? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #175 |
200. What a sick, disgusting, reactionary post. |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-05-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #175 |
207. Mmmm - makes perfect sense. God forces one person to suffer so another can benefit. |
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gk88850 (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
163. nothing |
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Sam1 (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
184. Step 2 |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-01-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #184 |
193. . |
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