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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 11:05 AM Original message |
On atheism and charity. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. I give to about 120 non-religious charities each year. Most are global. |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I guess I'm looking more for charities that work on the local level. |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Most secular charities that work on the local level are individual and local. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Yes, there is always “plenty of need right nearby”. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. I don't know where you live, but I bet that an organization similar to this (see link) exists there. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. That’s great, but it’s not what the OP asked. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Actually, it is. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 02:50 AM Response to Reply #37 |
57. I’d like to congratulate you on the birth of your sky pixie god agency. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Your fallacies are quite humorous. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Your blatant forgery and falsification of my pov is not humorous |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
3. There are plenty of non-religious charities out there. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. Well said. That's exactly the way to do it, IMO |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
4. You want receipts? |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. "...they are actually fucking saving people from poverty" Yeah, at a PRICE. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Well then...no 10$ check for them. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
5. Most religious charity around here is made by Catholics. I'll contribute to them, no problem. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Thank you |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Don't thank me. I calls 'em as I sees 'em. -nt |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
7. Doctors Without Borders? Oxfam? |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Well, Oxfam was originally founded by a group of |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 06:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
59. It doesn't matter to me much who founded Oxfam. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
8. I despise Aunty Sally's policies toward gays |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Yeah, I have mixed feelings about them |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
11. Wow... that's a pretty unfounded and broad-brush |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Oh no, when the proponent/s of the pov have psychic insight |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Deleted sub-thread |
omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 12:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. that's what's great about all the Apatheist charities |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 09:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
63. Okay, just happened to open this thread on a computer where I wasn't logged in. |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. There are plenty of secular charities, as you say. There are few-to-no specifically atheist |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 07:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
44. Why can't you find organizations devoted to not collecting stamps that have charities? |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 08:42 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Yeah, but nobody on the other side gets that. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 01:16 AM Response to Reply #45 |
54. And as soon as you designate “surrogate community” as “horseshit” you don’t get it. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. That was my point |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Okay...except the OP wasn't looking for specifically atheist charities. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 08:11 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Gotcha |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 08:55 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. “shouldn't be written off” because they are religious |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Well, I do understand if we're talking about the SA in particular |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. I only donate to non-religious charities. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
21. "This is a question mainly for atheists..." |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Perhaps because the word contains "theist" and because |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 05:05 AM Response to Original message |
23. So, in summary so far, zero secular candidate organizations nominated. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
24. Generalized charities have a tendency to bloat and become inefficient with their money distribution. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Deleted message |
HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
25. Check out Foundation Beyond Belief |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Yea, I checked it out, it does not fit the OP criteria |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Seems like you're obsessed with finding a "perfect" fit. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Yea, its my obsessive preference for people telling the truth |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 09:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Well, personally, I find it alarming. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. It very much exists on a local basis. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Oh, but don't you see, |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Alas, I am starting to see that. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 12:25 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. I don’t believe anyone should be surprised or alarmed |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #41 |
49. More BS. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 01:55 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. When you misrepresent what I said you do indeed provide "More BS" |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Clearly, telling the truth is not exactly your priority. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 01:58 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. And of course you will back the slur with example, quote or cite? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. You offered anecdotes. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 02:24 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. I admire the way you hasten from one shifting sand to another |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Now you accuse me of doing what you do. |
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ironbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. You make of me a prophet |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 08:46 AM Response to Reply #36 |
46. What you really have to ask yourself is, |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 09:45 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Exactly. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
34. Yes, I do. (n/t) |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 05:09 AM Response to Original message |
43. There are plenty of charitable organizations |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
50. The United Way? |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
51. The Carter Center. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 04:34 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Also Habitat for Humanity. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 08:51 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Habitat starts each day with a prayer to one specific deity named Jesus. |
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