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hedgehog
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Tue Apr-06-10 02:15 PM Original message |
"Why I stay: A Parable from a Progressive Catholic" |
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RUMMYisFROSTED
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Tue Apr-06-10 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. "Why I Never 'Belonged'" |
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zipplewrath
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Tue Apr-06-10 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. It dates back to their "miracle" |
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trotsky
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Heh. |
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YOY
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Tue Apr-06-10 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. People ask why I as an agnostic former Catholic still does not hate he church for what they have do. |
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Hello_Kitty
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Tue Apr-06-10 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. Gotta love the double standard |
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beam me up scottie
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Their god's got the same sweetheart deal. |
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AlecBGreen
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Thu Apr-08-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
57. funny cartoon |
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Gman
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Tue Apr-06-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
5. Those that bash The Church because of these scandals saying among other things |
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trotsky
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Tue Apr-06-10 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
6. Other institutions, and even plenty of individuals not associated with any church... |
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pnwmom
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Tue Apr-06-10 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
7. +1000. Thank you, Hedgehog. Why is it that a post like this gets relegated to forums |
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DesertRat
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I was wondering the same thing. |
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beam me up scottie
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Because the mods hate catholics. |
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DeSwiss
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Tue Apr-06-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Hehehehe.... |
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beam me up scottie
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Tue Apr-06-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. I don't understand, you mean Murphy wasn't treated like other serial pedophiles? |
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DeSwiss
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Tue Apr-06-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Pants to drop!!! |
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Cleobulus
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
8. So when are they going to vote the assholes in the hierarchy out then? |
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starroute
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
10. America is nominally a democracy -- the Catholic Church isn't |
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darkstar3
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
11. So let me see if I have this right: |
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pnwmom
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. No, you don't have it right. ALL the people comprise the body of the Church, including |
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darkstar3
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. They didn't just proclaim themselves to be in charge. |
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pnwmom
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Tue Apr-06-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Most church going Catholics in normal times, pay very little attention to pronouncements |
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darkstar3
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Bully for them. |
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Cleobulus
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. And this is precisely the problem, they IGNORE the problems with the hierarchy. |
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pnwmom
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Tue Apr-06-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. You're wrong. Many of us are active participants in groups of Catholics |
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Cleobulus
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Tue Apr-06-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Really, how? Tell me, what groups do you belong too that are trying to change the Church... |
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pnwmom
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Tue Apr-06-10 10:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Ever hear of VOTF? But the answer to the rest of your question is |
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Cleobulus
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Tue Apr-06-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Really, I would think GLBT people in Maine have a right to know... |
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iris27
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Tue Apr-06-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. When it's working to deny my humanity and bodily integrity, it is |
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Cleobulus
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Wed Apr-07-10 01:03 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Its no use, they don't care about you, or me, or anyone else but themselves. |
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skepticscott
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Wed Apr-07-10 05:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
44. You're deluding yourself |
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Cleobulus
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. What is more important, filling the pews, or staying true to your own beliefs? |
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DeSwiss
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Tue Apr-06-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. IF: "ALL the people comprise the body of the Church...." |
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pnwmom
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Tue Apr-06-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Do all the people in the US have the power to rid the US of all pedophiles? |
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trotsky
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Tue Apr-06-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. No, but we have the power to put them on trial and lock them up away from new victims. |
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DeSwiss
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Tue Apr-06-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. That's an absolutely terrible and weak analogy. |
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iris27
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Tue Apr-06-10 11:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Well, we certainly don't give the victims hush money and then dump repeat-offender pedophiles |
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iris27
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
16. In America you have a vote; you can work for the removal of corrupt officials. |
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Cleobulus
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I think you bring up an important point, why are they defending the Church while claiming... |
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damntexdem
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Tue Apr-06-10 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
18. American Catholics have often not understood how Catholics can be anticlerical. |
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DeSwiss
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Tue Apr-06-10 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
21. {Snickers} |
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gcomeau
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Tue Apr-06-10 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
28. The article argues against its own premise. |
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trotsky
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Tue Apr-06-10 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
29. There are so many ways in which that parable is flawed... |
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beam me up scottie
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Tue Apr-06-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. The Vatican is their Safe House, whenever a pedophile is publicly accused, they go to the mattresses |
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ZombieHorde
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
33. Those who give the Catholic Church money are supporting bigotry and child rape. |
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DeSwiss
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Wed Apr-07-10 01:30 AM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Absolutely. n/t |
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Jim__
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
45. I agree with her reasoning. |
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skepticscott
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. As I posted above |
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Jim__
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Wed Apr-07-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Clearly, this woman who is a member of the church, ... |
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skepticscott
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Wed Apr-07-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. And can you cite any significant change |
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Jim__
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Thu Apr-08-10 08:16 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. If you read the parable she cites, she's not trying to bring about significant doctrinal change. |
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iris27
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Thu Apr-08-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Considering that pedophilic priests have been victimizing kids for at least the last 40 years, |
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Jim__
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Thu Apr-08-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. You say there has been no change in the church's actions in the last 40 years. |
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iris27
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Thu Apr-08-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Sorry, actually, the last 60 years, looking closer at the dates |
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skepticscott
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Fri Apr-09-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Well, here's someone else |
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beam me up scottie
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Wed Apr-07-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. The Church has enjoyed persecuting, torturing and murdering its way through two centuries. |
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skepticscott
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Wed Apr-07-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. You're far too generous |
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beam me up scottie
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Wed Apr-07-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. D'oh! I meant to post 'millenia'. |
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skepticscott
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Wed Apr-07-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Figured that's what you meant |
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iris27
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Wed Apr-07-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Valid choice? Sure. Smart choice? Highly debatable. |
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Feron
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Sat Apr-10-10 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
60. The scandal is why I left the Church for good. |
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edhopper
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Sat Apr-10-10 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
61. A better parable would be |
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