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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:05 AM Original message |
Is this fair or not? |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
1. I believe it is fair |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
2. Fair AND accurate |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
3. Whose to say? |
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NoNothing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. Roughly to scale |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I was using relative and subjective references |
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sailor65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. +1 |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
5. According to wikipedia, the term "Dark Ages" is dated, and if applied ... |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. That's because "christian dark ages" presupposes what the author intends to prove. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I don;t see that implication at all |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. The creator's intention |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. Dark age for western Europe, ~500-700 c.e. |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. That confirms that the graph is not accurate. |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
6. "No idea of original source if any." .... ??? |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Uhh? I have no idea who came up with the chart. Do you? |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Fair enough. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Ah gotcha. I of course simply meant that I did not know if my link was original or not |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. But that was not what was said. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. And some people can use inference better than others. |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. The sloppy grammar is yours not mine - you made the statement. nt |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. It seems you are very desperate to find anything to contradict what you dont believe |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. If I am trying to find anything to contradict what I dont believe, then |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Like I said, whay do you have to act like such a jerk? |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
7. Fair? why not?... accurate? No. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. See post 8 NT |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Ok.. take another look at the graph. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Yes. It is true |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Hardly. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. So Europe in say 1000 CE had, for example, indoor plumbing? |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Yes... they had indoor plumbing in Europe in 1000CE |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Where that wasn't a hangover from earlier ages? NT |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Did you look at the graph? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Medieval cities had bath houses, not washing was an early protestant thing. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-26-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. Roman civilization and European civilization are two separate entities. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-26-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
48. What wonderful ancient Egyptian or Babylonian technology do you think |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
12. Here's the source of the graph and the written explanation from 2007. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Many thanks - now I know! NT |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. That hardly reads like a scholarly document. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Is it supposed to be? Did anybody say it was? NT |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Is it supposed to be roughly accurate? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
34. I'm not fan of religion, but that chart is ignorant and stupid |
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dimbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
39. The chart is fair, but the interpretation is flawed. |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
40. Fairly fair. Here's a good book on the subject... |
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ChadwickHenryWard (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-24-10 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
41. Fair? Don't know. Useless? Yes - very yes. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-25-10 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
42. No. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-25-10 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
43. One should first note that classical Egyptian civilisation was |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-25-10 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
44. Probably not |
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dimbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-25-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. It goes beyond the power of a message board....... |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-26-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
46. No, I don't think it's particularly accurate. |
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