Galileo Was Wrong! The Church Was Right (Make sure you're sitting down. Hate for you to fall over.)

[WillParkinson]

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/09/galileo-was-wrong.html

[Ian David]

1. I posted that yesterday in the Religion forum...

Galileo Was Wrong: First Annual Catholic Conference on Geocentrism
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=214x259462

[FLyellowdog]

36. Well, things are a bit confusing...

For example, I was taught that ∏ r 2
and yet we all know that pie are round...cornbread are square.
:rofl:

[mikelgb]

2. shit I'm going to hop on my triceratops and head down there

can't miss this!

[Botany]

3. Well I know I can trust the Catholic Church

[Canuckistanian]

4. This will come as a shock to NASA

They NEED the Earth to orbit around the Sun in order to launch planetary probes.

Now it's going to take 40 years for a space mission to Jupiter.

[pinboy3niner]

7. Space mission to Jupiter? You must have missed the memo...

...announcing the discovery of new evidence that manned flight is impossible in our atmosphere, let alone in outer space. :)

[Javaman]

22. And Jupiter is nothing but a painting on a giant backdrop. nt

[marmar]

5. The Catholic Church yearns for the Medieval glory days

nt

[malaise]

29. +1,000

They are batshit crazy

[Gman]

6. As we all know

Every religion has it's nuts. This is in no way being put on by the Catholic Church. In fact it's very much against Church teachings.

[brendan120678]

8. Exactly. I was going to point out the same thing. (nt)

[Name removed]

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[pinboy3niner]

14. Yep. The organizer (first photo) is way out there

From wiki:


Robert Sungenis

Robert A. Sungenis (born 1955), is the founder of the Bellarmine Theological Forum. Sungenis is known for his works in apologetics critiquing the Protestant doctrines of Sola Fide and Sola Scriptura. More recently, he has become known for his advocacy of geocentrism and also for views of Jews and Judaism that have created controversy.

Biography

Robert Sungenis was raised in a Catholic family, but became a Protestant in 1975, aged nineteen.<1> He held various posts (e.g., elder, preacher, adult Sunday school director) in several Protestant Churches including a two-year employment under Harold Camping of Family Radio.<2> He obtained his B.A. in Religion from George Washington University in 1979, and an M.A. in theology from Westminster Theological Seminary in 1982.

Sungenis reverted to Catholicism in 1992 at the age of thirty-seven. In 1994 he was the principal author of a book critiquing the eschatological views of Harold Camping and a number of prominent Protestant preachers.<3> The story of his conversion to Catholicism is chronicled in the first of the Surprised By Truth books<4> edited by Catholic apologist and author Patrick Madrid. He has debated many Protestant apologists, including James R. White, Dave Hunt, Michael Horton, Robert Godfrey and Robert Zins on doctrinal, theological, and historical issues such as Sola Scriptura, the Papacy and papal infallibility, Salvation and Justification.

Sungenis has become known for controversial views of the Jewish people and Judaism that have been sharply criticized by some of his fellow Catholics and by the Southern Poverty Law Centre as being anti-Semitic.<5><6> Facing such criticism in 2002, Sungenis stated that he is against Zionism, but that he is not anti-semitic. "Anti-semitism is a hatred for the Jewish race. There isn't a bone in my body that feels that way about Jewish people," he wrote.<7> In 2008, Sungenis' bishop, Kevin C. Rhoades, denounced his views of the Jewish people and Judaism as "hostile, uncharitable, and un-Christian" and required Sungenis to stop writing about them. He also directed him to stop using the word "Catholic" in his organization's name.<5> Sungenis has stated that he will only comply with Bishop Rhoades' directive to stop writing about Jews and Judaism if he is forced to do so "under the aegis of a canonical trial".<8>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Sungenis

[WolverineDG]

38. Oh don't spoil their fun

apparently, tarring people of faith with the same broad brush is the only fun some people have

dg

[skepticscott]

39. "People of faith"?

WTF does that mealy-mouthed, well-spun phrase even mean?

And we don't tar them all with the same brush. This is purely Catholic lunacy. Unless you've had word of the "First Annual Lutheran Conference on Geocentrism" or "First Annual Anglican Conference on Geocentrism" or "First Annual Hindu Conference on Geocentrism" that none of the rest of us have. Otherwise, ridicule on this issue will be confined to members of the One True Church.

[WolverineDG]

40. It means exactly what it means

and yes, "you" do tar anyone who believes in God or a higher power with the same brush, repeatedly.

dg

[skepticscott]

41. So why not just say

"religious people" or "people who believe in stuff with no evidence"?

[Fuzz]

9. That's for real?

[pipi_k]

10. Sounds more like they're trying to prove

that they are the center of the universe...


:eyes:

[JCMach1]

12. so tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1499!

[ck4829]

13. Wait a second, doesn't the church itself admit that it was wrong?

So, aren't these guys going against the church?

[Goblinmonger]

16. The church has said they are right on their protection of pedophile priests.

And their policies toward gays. And toward women.

But latch on to the fact that the hierarchy of the Catholic Church has actually admitted that the earth isn't the center of the universe.

[ck4829]

18. I'm not latching onto anything

The policies against gays and women are appalling, and I'll raise you one that has not been yet mentioned, and that would be involvement with despots in Latin America and taking of poor peoples property in Africa.

I think it's OK to note the inconsistency here without necessarily being called an apologist, not even remotely Catholic myself.

[Goblinmonger]

19. Cool.

Just a bit frustrated with the dance some people play. Sorry for attributing that dance to you. :toast:

[Johonny]

30. yes

[CanonRay]

15. I wish they'd stop giving doctorates in Theology

Makes it seem like these guys might actually know something.

[JCMach1]

17. or Catbuttology as my daughters would say to this!

[SpiralHawk]

20. FreepBagliCon Know Nothingism is on the spew...

...duck and cover...spew alert

[SoxFan]

21. You do realize that The Catholic Church has nothing to do with this, right?

Oh, hell, we all know that doesn't matter. Its all about making snarky slurs against religion.

[WillParkinson]

23. Snarky slurs?

Of course I know it has nothing to do with the church. That's what makes it all the more ridiculous. These people seem to think that by affixing the church on it gives it credence.

[Goblinmonger]

31. OK, The RCC clearly has nothing to do with this group.

But, the church protected pedophiles, promoted them in many instances, and moved them to new parishes giving them new victims in many other cases.

The church has convinced many people in 3rd world countries that you cannot prevent AIDS by wearing a condom.

The church discriminates against gays and women.

But those are probably just "snarky slurs against religion."

[Sal Minella]

32. Snarky slurs are made against stupidity.

Wherever stupidity and religion overlap each other, that area is also covered by the snarky slurs, yes.

[Goblinmonger]

33. That's just screaming for a Venn Diagram. n/t

[Tommy_Carcetti]

24. You are aware that the Catholic Church has issued a mea culpa on the Galileo affair, correct?

Correct?

Or do you want to make all Catholics look backwards by some unsanctioned, unofficial gathering in a Hilton Garden Inn in Indiana where the speakers will probably outnumber the audience?

[WillParkinson]

25. See reply #27

Yes, I'm well aware.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

26. Should have made it more clear in the OP then. nt

[WillParkinson]

27. The title of the post should have given it away: Hate for you to fall over...

I couldn't fit laughing in there. Sorry you didn't catch it or it wasn't clear enough for you.

[skepticscott]

37. How many centuries after the truth was known

did that apology come?

And when you see an announcement for "First Annual Lutheran Conference on Geocentrism" or "First Annual Atheist Conference on Geocentrism", please be sure to post it here. But we won't be holding our breath.

[lumberjack_jeff]

28. Calls into question what it takes to be a "Dr." doesn't it? n/t

[struggle4progress]

34. And next week: Bob Sungenis is the center of the universe! Amazing new scientific

theory identifies Bob Sungenis as the point around which the universe revolves! Steve Hawking is almost speechless: "I really don't quite know what to say!" Hear our interviews with other top scientists! We'll have realistic simulations of the universe revolving around Bob! And you'll have a unique opportunity to buy our new book! That's next week! Don't miss it!

[WillParkinson]

35. Oops

Sorry, replied to the wrong message.