Anti-Muslim email and my response.

[blonndee]

I am SO F**KING ANGRY at the members of my extended family who are circulating this ignorant HATE! Just when I think I can't get any more pissed off at these people.

Here is what the fundies are circulating:

Oracle Commentaries 2/12/2004
Fighting Swine with Swine

I have always said that the U.S. faces the most dangerous enemy in its history. The Muslim terrorists are religiously motivated and they seek to fight a “holy war” are “Jihad” against the U.S.

It is still unclear exactly how to best fight against an enemy who wants to be killed. During World War II, we faced a similar enemy in the Japanese Imperial Forces, but they were concentrated on islands where we could fulfill their death wish without hurting anybody else, whereas many of the terrorists live among us.

In the light of that, we need to fight Muslims back with “religiously effective weapons”.

Israeli police are considering using bags of pig lard in buses and other places to deter Muslim suicide bombers. In fact, the proposal has received the approval of the Jerusalem rabbinate.

Rabbi Eliezer Moshe Fisher, of the Jerusalem Rabbinical Court, ruled yesterday that "there is no Halachic ban on using bags of lard in buses and other places" when saving lives is concerned. The Halachic permit says bags of lard may be used in any place that might be a target for suicide bombings, such as schools, shopping malls and railway stations.

The rabbi also said that if the police do not use pig fat in buses, tens of thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews will arm themselves with spray guns filled with liquid lard to be used against terrorists.

Strict Muslim tradition holds that any Muslim who comes in contact with a pig before dying will be denied access to heaven.

"If bags of pig lard will prevent zealous Moslem terrorists from carrying out attacks, I'm all for it," said Deputy Internal Security Minister Ya'acov Edri (Likud) in response to the plan.

In October, former Chief Rabbi Mordehai Eliyahu and Kiryat Arba's Chief Rabbi Dov Lior gave their endorsement to a proposal to test the use of wild pigs in detecting terrorist infiltrators and explosives in West Bank communities.

The idea is not a new one.

Just before World War I, General 'Blackjack' Pershing was stationed in the Philippines, where he was ordered to put down an Islamic insurgency movement.

Pershings troops captured fifty terrorists and had them tied to posts for execution.

Pershing ordered his men to slaughter two pigs in front of the now horrified terrorists. The soldiers soaked their bullets in pigs blood in full view of the fifty condemned terrorists.

Using the pig-soaked bullets, they executed forty-nine of them by firing squad. They dug a big hole, dumped in the bodies of the terrorists, and covered them in pig blood, entrails, etc., and covered over the grave.

Pershing let the fiftieth terrorist go. There wasn't another Islamic terrorist incident for forty-two years.

Last year, the Russians began wrapping the bodies of Chechen terrorists in pigskin before burial. It has had a significant effect on acts of terrorism against the Russian state by Islamic terrorists.

Since the Muslim fundamentalists launch their suicide attacks against the U.S. and Israel because of their firm belief that they will immediately go to Paradise to be welcomed by their 72 black-eyed virgins, it follows that they would be terrified by anything that their religious faith tells them would prevent them from going to Paradise.

A devout Muslim fundamentalist does believe that if he touches anything from a pig at death, his is doomed forever. So may I introduce the new Secret super-weapon against Muslim Terrorists—missiles and airburst bombs filled with pig parts. There should be special public ceremonies in which our bullets are baptized in pig’s blood.

I really do believe that this would immediately suppress their “Jihad fervor” and strike terror into their hearts. Nations like Italy and Poland that produce a large amount of pig products would be only too glad for us to have the pig manure and other by-products for use in “anti-Jihad” weapons.

One could call it ‘fighting swine with swine’.

Hal Lindsey

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Disgusting! Here is my reply to everyone on the list:

Reply to all on list:

Are you so ignorant as to believe that the greatest threat to this country consists of Muslim extremists? I suggest you look within your own religion for Pharisees and people who hijack the name of God for their own purposes.

Do you not remember that Jesus himself associated himself with what you religious hypocrites consider to be the lowest of society? Samaritans (the equivalent of Muslims today), prostitutes, tax collectors, thieves, liars, etc., etc.?

Why are you so intent on circulating such racist, ignorant, uninformed CRAP? Are you so afraid that someone might possibly have COMPASSION (as Jesus did) for people who are different in any way? You might ask yourselves WHY you fear this. And do you know ANYTHING about the Palestinian/Jewish conflict, besides what you hear on CBN or the 700 Club? If you did, you'd know that there are more Christian Palestinians than there are in Jewish-occupied areas. Why aren't you standing up for THESE persecuted people? Is it because they are poor? Voiceless? Persecuted? Do you not remember these words:

Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. (Mat 5:3-11)

Or are you so willfully blind that you skim over these words and think they ONLY apply to you? Then I would direct you to:

Mat 23:13-24 (NIV) "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. Woe to you, blind guides!.. You blind fools!.. You blind men!.. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel."

Mat 23:25-28 (NIV) "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

1Sa 16:7 (NIV) "The Lord does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart."

Those of you who are circulating this hatred should be ashamed of yourselves.

[PsychoDad]

1. Shukraan (Thank you)

"Strict Muslim tradition holds that any Muslim who comes in contact with a pig before dying will be denied access to heaven."

Last time I read the Quran, it was Harem, or unlawful to EAT pig, and even that could be done if your survival depended on it.

And eating pork isn't nearly as great a sin as killing an innocent.

Therefore, if One was to risk the wrath of the almighty by killing an innocent, an act proscribed, why would they care about a little lard?

Lack of knowledge of Islam and lack of logic can be a tragic but funny thing.

I, a Muslim, Thank you for your response :)

Peace

[Infomaniac]

2. Check out Snopes.com

I didn'tthink it passed the smell test. I hate when people pass this ignorant shit around. I can just see some idiot Freeper touring through the Holy Land with a huge bucket of lard around his neck.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm

[NMMNG]

3. Good reply

And as the previous DUer posted, Snopes debunked that tripe in the e-mail anyway.

There are whackjob fundamentalist Muslims who would harm others, just as there are whackjob fundamentalist Christians who would harm others. Be it "suicide bombings" or "abortion clinic bombings" people end up getting harmed.

The most effective weapons against this silliness are truth, and non-violence.

[onager]

4. Among all the other stupidities...

Atheist History Geek almost fell out of the chair when I saw this one:

During World War II, we faced a similar enemy in the Japanese Imperial Forces, but they were concentrated on islands where we could fulfill their death wish without hurting anybody else...

Except for the kamikaze aircraft pilots, who killed and wounded thousands while sinking quite a few of our ships.

They probably didn't mention kamikazes in the right-wing history sources, which appear to be G.I. COMBAT comic books, circa 1962.

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I wonder why anybody is still listening to that tedious old fraud, Hal Lindsey.

He's the one whose books, in the 1970's, constantly screeched that Armageddon would be started by the Atheistic Russian Commie Empire invading Israel.

Why is it that believers never remember the failed predictions? That applies to the fans of phonies like Sylvia Browne as well.

[blonndee]

5. Thanks for the replies. I'm going to catch hell for this...I'm scared to

even open up my email inbox. These extended family will surely complain to my mother, even though I'm a 30-year old woman, and my mom will be all upset about it. She'll feel guilty for me making waves and I hate for her to have to take the brunt of any of what I choose to do.

Maybe I should have just ignored it. But dammit! I'm sick of this crap, and I don't want anyone thinking I'm in agreement with them.