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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 12:07 PM
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Ken Ham makes it easy to be a lazy atheist
Ken Ham makes it easy to be a lazy atheist

Category: Creationism
Posted on: January 7, 2011 11:04 AM, by PZ Myers

Ken Ham is not happy with the Pope. If the Pope claims that his god started the Big Bang, that is an acknowledgment that the Big Bang, which is not in the Bible, actually happened, and you know what that leads to? Madness!

Now, if the book of Genesis is an allegory, then sin is an allegory, the Fall is an allegory, the need for a Savior is an allegory, and Adam is an allegory—but if we are all descendants of an allegory, where does that leave us? It destroys the foundation of all Christian doctrine—it destroys the foundation of the gospel.

Yes! Exactly!

If Genesis is an allegory then the first marriage is just an allegory, so marriage can be anything one wants to define it as!

QED!

Yay! Ken Ham has demolished Christianity! I think I'll go have some tea to celebrate. Maybe take a nap, or read a comic book.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/01/ken_ham_makes_it_easy_to_be_a.php
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 12:10 PM
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1. I Love Genesis
:woohoo:


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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 01:23 PM
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2. Me too.
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AlecBGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 08:26 PM
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3. Here is my question for literalists
Jesus said to forgive not seven times, but seventy seven. Does that then mean we should forever withhold forgiveness on the 78th offense? I dont think that jibes with Christ's message. If that is not literal, then why must the rest of the Bible be literal?

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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 09:54 PM
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4. how does one tell what and what is not literal?
It either is or it is not.
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AlecBGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:35 PM
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6. I believe its a matter of personal discernment
I take some parts literal, some figurative. I do not feel belief in God, faith in Christ and a functioning human intellect are incompatible.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:38 PM
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8. When people are able to keep it a personal matter, you will have a good argument.
But right now, we (as in all of us) are beset on all sides by "literalists" that want to impose their "personal discernment" on everyone.

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skepticscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:06 PM
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5. Some translations
put it at seventy times seven. The practical result of even a literal reading being that Jesus taught that you should never stop forgiving.
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AlecBGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:37 PM
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7. yes, I agree
One of the main points of the NT is that a focus on the letter of God's law leads to death. It is the SPIRIT of truth and understanding which lead to life.
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