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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:15 PM
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For those who believe in souls, when do people get them?
At what point does a person get a soul?

Conception? Birth? Baptism? When?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:16 PM
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1. Kindergarten.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:18 PM
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4. So, around 5-years-old, or when a person actually attends a class labled "kindergarten?" nt
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:25 PM
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9. You have to go to kindergarten.
They hand out souls along with the fingerpaint sets.
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:16 PM
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2. during an unprotected sex act...
Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 05:17 PM by Dennis Donovan
...wait, that's sores.:blush:
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:17 PM
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3. Apparently, it's not at birth, given the number of soulless repukes running around, -n/t
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:21 PM
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6. ...
:thumbsup:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:21 PM
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5. When you learn to play jazz or blues guitar.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:24 PM
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18. +1. nt
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:22 PM
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7. It's a choice. Wait, no you're born with one?
I think you have to eat soul food then write your name backwards on the head of a pin with a magic marker.

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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:23 PM
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8. when they leave the republican party and corporatism
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:33 PM
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10. Birth. n/t
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:35 PM
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11. You don't get a soul, you are a soul.
Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 05:36 PM by bananas
Paraphrasing cs lewis.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:37 PM
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12. That is definately a different way of looking at it.
Does the soul exist at conception then?
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:17 PM
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14. Before.
If the soul is really eternal, it exists both before and after the body.

A number of people, myself included, believe the soul enters the body at birth, with the first breath; it's like switching on the power of a great machine. Then you have a complete "person". In that interval from birth to death, the soul is tied to the body, but before and after that period, it is not tied to a body. So I'd say technically the soul "exists" at conception, but it's not tied to the zygote at that point.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:53 PM
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15. I think I understand. Thanks for the explanation. nt
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 04:08 AM
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21. Joseph Campbell on Eternity
From an interview with Bill Moyers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhgbUbPSE2Y

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 04:07 AM
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20. Is it a new concept for you?
CS Lewis wasn't the first person to come up with that.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 03:00 PM
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22. I was raised Roman Catholic. I was taught the soul enters the body at conception.
The RCC is not a very spiritual religion.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 05:42 PM
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13. True.
It might be better to say you "get" a body.

I think of the soul as preceding birth and possibly existing eternally. But the OP asked when a "person" gets a soul, so I answered at birth, since I define a person as having both body and soul. But I like your answer better because it "breaks the rules" and shows the question in a new light.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 07:42 PM
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16. Am I the only one who doesn't believe in a supernatural soul that persists after death?
Sorry, but the more I see the evidence - from observations of stroke patients to MRI experiments, the more I have to conclude that the mind is entirely physical - it's "software" in the hardware known as our information processing organ, the brain.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:11 PM
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17. I don't believe in souls, but I wanted to hear about how they worked from those who do believe.
Most of the replies are from those who also don't believe in souls; I think.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:26 PM
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19. Whenever you want it. nt
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 03:11 PM
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23. When we were still fish
or before.

But that's just a guess.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 03:19 PM
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24. Upon the first listen
of a James Brown record.
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Tyrs WolfDaemon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:35 PM
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25. Only people that have been hit by lightning have souls
I have never been hit by lightning although I have done many things that should have gotten me hit.




Now, Life-sparks, that is a totally different deal. Life-sparks form from the interaction of the fire from Muspelheim and the ice from Niflheim.
That creates life Sparks which then are called to those soon-to-be born when they are ready for them. For that reason, no-one can know when it will happen or even if it will happen for any one being (Repugs are proof that not all have Life-sparks). Life-sparks are also recyclable with old Life-sparks inserting themselves into the soon-to-be born so as to continue their own evolution.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:38 PM
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26. You get a soul when the Catholic Church deems you get one
remember, in the first few hundred years of the ONE....TRUE.....CHURCH.... Women did not have souls
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:39 PM
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27. Souls are simply reflections off the One Thing. As are our personalities and our bodies.
So they exist when conditions arise that favor their manifestation.
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