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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:52 AM
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Goodbye Religion? How Godlessness Is Increasing With Each New Generation
Something strange is happening to American teenagers. If you believe popular wisdom, young people are apathetic, cynical and jaded; or, they're supposed to be conformists whose overriding desire is to fit in and be popular. But if you've been paying close attention over the past decade, you might have seen any of a growing number of cases that conspicuously defy these stereotypes: stories of teenagers who have strong principles they're unashamed to display and which they're committed to defending, even at great personal cost, against the bullying of a hostile establishment.

For example, in 2002, an Eagle Scout named Darrell Lambert was threatened with expulsion from the Boy Scouts, despite his having earned dozens of merit badges and having held literally every leadership position in his troop. His crime? He's an outspoken atheist. When the news of his beliefs reached scouting officials, they demanded that he change his mind. He was given a week to think it over. All he had to do was lie, but if he did that, he said, "I wouldn't be a good Scout then, would I?" For his honesty, he was kicked out of the organization he'd devoted his life to.

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Over the last few decades, society in general, and young people in particular, have become increasingly tolerant of gays and other minorities. For the most part, this is a predictable result of familiarity: people who've grown up in an increasingly multicultural society see less problem with interracial relationships (89% of Generation Nexters approve of interracial marriage, compared to 70% of older age groups) and same-sex marriage (47% in favor among Nexters, compared to 30% in older groups). When it comes to issues like whether gays and lesbians should be protected from job discrimination or allowed to adopt, the age gap in support is even more dramatic (71% vs. 59% and 61% vs. 44%, respectively).

But while American society is moving forward on all these fronts, many churches not only refuse to go along, they're actively moving backward. Most large Christian sects, both Catholic and Protestant, have made fighting against gay rights and women's rights their all-consuming crusade. And young people have gotten this message loud and clear: polls find that the most common impressions of Christianity are that it's hostile, judgmental and hypocritical. In particular, an incredible 91% of young non-Christians say that Christianity is "anti-homosexual", and significant majorities say that Christianity treats being gay as a bigger sin than anything else. (When right-wing politicians thunder that same-sex marriage is worse than terrorism, it's not hard to see where people have gotten this impression.)


http://www.alternet.org/belief/151947/goodbye_religion_how_godlessness_is_increasing_with_each_new_generation/?page=entire
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 12:02 PM
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1. Nah. Religion wil never go away.
I could explain why I believe so, but, you know, I don't want to get a mod warning, suspension or worse. You can make a guess.
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 12:39 PM
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4. Which religion?
Because there are many, many dead and forgotten religions. As time goes on, more and more people will leave their superstitions behind, like the Greeks, Romans, ancient Norse, etc.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:19 PM
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6. Those Europeans just switched to different superstitions...
of the Christian kind.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:51 PM
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8. Who says they are dead?
Plenty of Hellenistic, Asatru and the Olde Relgious-- just not moneyed. Imagine, a worship that doesn't carry a weekly protection fee.
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 12:45 PM
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5. +1 ......
What he said!
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 12:17 PM
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2. This would be encouraging if it included evidence that they are dumping theism.
I see they are drifting away from intolerance, but that is not necessarily the same as drifting away from superstition.
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Permanut Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 12:34 PM
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3. Thanks for reporting on this, Lib...
it makes perfect sense to me that people young and old would be repulsed by the bigotry, intolerance, and greed of the people who are using their churches to hide their hideous behavior. Makes it more difficult for those of us who belong to progressive, inclusive, liberal churches, and who are using our organizations to help those in need.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:23 PM
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7. Give it a chance.....
..Christianity is only 2000 yrs old! Their god will show up someday and we will all be lifted up into the heavens. I hope they have internet.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:29 PM
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9. I'm not sure religion is going away, but it is becoming harder and harder to rationalize and justify
People are keeping it a private matter, as it should be.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:58 AM
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10. I am hoping new age and neo-pagan cults take the place of monotheistic religions. nt
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 02:03 PM
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11. You think science education is bad now?
Quick! Name a new age cult that isn't based on pseudoscience.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:55 PM
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12. No. I think science based education is wonderful.
Quick! Name a new age cult that isn't based on pseudoscience.

I'll name three. The O.T.O. and The Temple of Psychic Youth (TOPY). I have had roommates from both of these cults, and I think they are really cool people.

The Church of Satan isn't based on pseudoscience, but they are a bit conservative for my tastes. I have associated with a few members of this cult, but we never really got along. I have a silly sense of humor, and Satanists seem to take themselves very seriously. I think the basis for CoS may be Ayn Rand, but I am not completely positive about that.

I completely agree with you on the subjects of medicine and the supernatural, but politically, the worse they will do is make insurance companies cover some stupid stuff.

I know there are some really crappy new age cults, but most of them are cool.



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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:00 PM
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13. Psychic?
Ok.
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:09 PM
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14. Wondered about that myself.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:46 PM
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15. They don't use the word psychic the way normal people use it.
They don't claim to be mind readers or know the future. The members I knew are just as skeptical as you.

They practiced mediation, ritual scarring, prolonged sexual practices, and anything else which would intentionally alter their perception. They were also Buckminster Fuller fans, but I am not sure what the connection was.

I did know one member of TOPY who was really into the supernatural, but she was the exception. She worshiped Babylon and had tattoos of snakes coming out of her vagina. She had some unconventional beliefs, but she was never boring.

Many members of the O.T.O. believe in the supernatural, such as astrology and alternative medicine, but these beliefs are not official doctrine of the cult.

The Church of Satan seems to have contradictory beliefs towards the supernatural. The book, Satanic Witch, claims magic is for fooling the foolish, while the Satanic Bible seems to take the subject more seriously. Both books were written by the same author, Anton Levey. I sometimes suspect CoS started as a think tank for social darwinists, and then expanded into a scam. I don't really know though; I have had very little personal dealings with them.
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