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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 08:04 AM
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Hurry, while special offer on absolution for abortion lasts in Spain!
Church extends authority to absolve sin of abortion for papal visit

Typically, only certain priests have the power to grant absolution for the sin of abortion and to lift excommunications that have resulted from terminated pregnancies, according to a Vatican spokesman.

“All the priests that are administering the sacrament of confession during World Youth Day have the general authority to give absolution from the penalty of excommunication for abortion if someone comes to confession… if someone has this need,” Vatican spokesman Rev. Federico Lombardi told CNN on Thursday, referring to the event that brought Pope Benedict XVI to Madrid on Thursday for a four-day visit.

Madrid Archbishop Antonio María Rouco Varela announced the extension of such authority to more priests in a statement on the archdiocese's website, saying the move was made in hopes that "all of the faithful who attend the celebrations of the 26th World Youth Day in Madrid can more easily attain the fruits of divine grace, that the doors to a new life open for them."

The church has set up 200 confessional booths in a Madrid park for priests to hear confessions in.

Varela said the Roman Catholic Church “has conferred to all the priests legitimately approved to hear sacramental confessions, who are in the archdiocese of Madrid during August 15 to 22, the delegated power to remit during the sacrament of penance the excommunication… corresponding to the sin abortion, to the faithful who are truly sorry, imposing at the same time a convenient penance.”

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/18/authority-to-absolve-sin-of-abortion-extended-for-papal-visit/?hpt=hp_c2


I'd love to see a theological justification for this. Is the proximity of the pope meant to give a magical 'power-up' to the local priests, that, once he wings his way back to Rome, fades away? Is it that being keen to take part in a Catholic PR exercise is enough to overcome a 'sin' so grievous it normally merits excommunication? Is it to encourage other places to invite the pope in the future in the hope they'll be able to forgive a few extra sins, rather than regard him as an unwelcome hypocritical enabler of child rape, as rather too many Catholic countries are starting to see him as?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 09:11 AM
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1. "a magical 'power-up'"
:rofl:
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 09:58 AM
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2. That is exactly what it is. Power up by decree.
I hereby decree, this week only, everyone who posts on the R/T board will be forgiven for one incident of public masturbation, or two incidents of shop lifting.
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Lynx Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:40 AM
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3. what is the penance?
Does it involve whips and chains?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 02:10 PM
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4. Assuming you want information and are not performing, here's where you can find it.
Google the difference between excommunication ferendae sententiae and excommunication latae sententiae.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 02:58 PM
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6. No, that doesn't seem to help
I tried this, for instance: http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage.asp?number=481429&Pg=&Pgnu=&recnu=

and that says nothing about certain classes of priest having the ability to absolve people for some sins for limited amounts of time in one particular area, but not at other times or places. It just talks about excommunications being either automatic or imposed after an examination of the circumstances.

Really, I can't see how they can justify this without admitting that their punishments are really about imposing the arbitrary will of the church, rather than about morality or repentance. Why do these few priests have the temporary judgement to be able to discern if someone really is so repentant that they should be allowed back in the church, while their equivalents in other places do not - and when they will themselves lose this wisdom in a few days time?

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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:14 PM
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7. Why would anyone want to belong to a church that did not want them??
Edited on Fri Aug-19-11 11:14 PM by Angry Dragon
also I think it is very funny that a bunch of old, old men are deciding how women should behave.........
The catholic church is dying and it will matter not
if their god is so powerful then why worry if the church dies??
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 02:10 PM
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5. +5 buff for priests in the action radius. nt
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