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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:19 PM
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Brooklyn isn't Jerusalem. Signs ask Jewish women to step aside for men
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 12:20 PM by no_hypocrisy
NEW YORK (JTA) -- Yiddish signs briefly sprouted on Brooklyn trees asking Jewish women to step aside when a man walks down the sidewalk.

The plastic signs bolted to trees in the Brooklyn neighborhood of South Williamsburg read, in Yiddish, “Precious Jewish Daughters: Please move over to the side when you see a man cross,” the Brooklyn Paper reported last week.

Parks maintenance workers removed 16 of the signs last week because they were nailed to public-owned trees, a violation subject to a $150 fine.

Sources told the Brooklyn Paper that the signs were part of a campaign by a rabbinical group, the Central Rabbinical Congress, that has published other decrees, including one in June forbidding women to wear tank tops.



http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/10/10/3089783/brooklyn-signs-ask-jewish-women-to-step-aside-for-men
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:21 PM
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1. There's a town not far from me
called New Square, and it's a 100% Hassidic place that actually has a law on the books that men should walk on one side of the street, women on the other. I have no idea if it's ever enforced, but I have as much contempt for rabbinic law as I do for sharia law.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:30 PM
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2. Unconstitutional.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:30 PM
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3. What the hell?
Is there something in Leviticus about cooties?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:39 PM
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4. A Fundamentalist, is a Fundamentalist, is not a . . .
Feminist, or a modern person, in any language. Williamsburg might as well be Jeddah or Shiraz or Lynchburg. G-d bless them all.
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:42 PM
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5. I hope they charge the Rabbinical Congress for every one of those violations...
If the signs were in Arabic and posted in Dearborn, there would be a media firestorm.

I am sick and fucking tired of Orthodox Jews and the state of Israel getting a free pass in our media of being fascist thugs.
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:46 PM
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6. Not that I really disagree, but
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:53 PM
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7. I don't feel they need reconciliation. But too expand...
Not once, not ever, have I argued in favor of ANY organized religion. And I hate fundamentalist religion with a passion that I have made clear many times.

What I said (and I think I said it articulately) is that I don't entirely reject the possibility of god, and that I have deep respect for believers whose faith inspires them.

Nothing more, nothing less.
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 12:55 PM
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8. So you "don't disparage religion" except when it really pisses you off.
Got it.
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idiotgardener Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:07 PM
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9. Where's the disparagement?
Taxpayers had to pay to have the sexist signs removed. A way to get that money back is by charging them the fine that is already specified for the infraction.

Wanting someone to pay a fine for the infraction they committed is disparagement?


Personally I think the group that put up the offensive signs should have been forced to take them down, but whatever gets the job done...
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:09 PM
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10. Seriously? Did you read the last sentence of #5?
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idiotgardener Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:15 PM
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11. OK, I guess I misread...
I thought you meant that fining the group would be disparagement of religion. Oops!
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 03:34 PM
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13. Don't you get it?
He can disparage religion. You cannot. Learn your place.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 10:17 PM
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18. I think you have it!
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 09:08 PM
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17. Hrm.
"It does, however, mean that I need to at least consider the possibility that they are right."

Doesn't appear that you did this time.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 10:19 PM
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19. Hey, quoting back a persons exact words is not fair play!
How can one get away with hypocrisy when you do that?


You meanie.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:44 PM
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12. Actually it shouldn't be happening in Jerusalem either. Most Israelis are secular and opposed to
such attitudes; but the ultra-Orthodox have excessive power due to the Israeli electoral system giving excessive influence to small religious parties.

Since this is not the case in Brooklyn, I hope the secular majority ignore this idiocy and don't pander to it.

Unfortunately, the equivalent Christian ultras have undue power in the American electoral system!
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 03:39 PM
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14. Exactly
Well said.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:22 PM
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15. the women cut their hair off and wear ugly wigs.
No way in hell I would join a religion where either the women can't cut their hair, or cut it off and wear wigs. These damn men that make those rules are stupid and or mean.

I have thick wavy hair, enough for three people, and if I had to either let it grow wild, or cut it off, that would NOT WORK.

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:40 PM
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16. But we should respect their Deeply Held Religious Beliefs
Lest we be deemed intolerant religion-haters. :sarcasm:
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