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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:20 AM
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God Said It, I Believe It, That Settles It…
Whenever I hear a believer state, in one fashion or another, “God said it, I believe it, that settles it,” I know that there is an impending breakdown in the likelihood that a reasonable, rational, intelligent and diplomatic conversation is going to take place. Those oh-so non-judgmental patrons of Christianity, Islam and Judaism who believe that their god has given strict, unbending, draconian, bronze-age commands on certain issues land them squarely on the flat, worn-out faces of the brick-walls we know as ignorance and intolerance. Throw in a dose of hatred and bigotry, for good measure.

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Many of the people who hold a significant amount of these beliefs currently occupy seats in the United States Senate and House of Representatives as well as key White House cabinet positions. A couple have recently held the office of the President. Worse yet, there are hundreds and thousands who hold local offices, are teaching in our public schools, are responsible for the careers of subordinates and many walk around with guns and badges. The number of people in our military who hold many of these beliefs is simply frightening, because they hold positions all the way up to the rank of General.

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There is no diplomacy with these individuals, and very often their reaction to just being in the presence of an atheist warrants our undiplomatic, intolerant finger-pointing. Besides, I am not out to win a Nobel Peace prize, nor am I out to make friends with anyone who holds the beliefs I listed above as truth. I don’t give one, single iota of credibility to their beliefs and I will continue to make it my mission in life to make it as difficult as I possibly can for them to be perceived as anywhere near resembling normal people.

They are dangerous, ignorant, uneducated, hate-filled, narrow-minded, bigoted, intolerant, self-righteous fools that have been brainwashed into believing that committing some of the most horrific acts of inhumanity toward their fellow men, women and children are the want, will, desire and command the sick, twisted, perverted, megalomaniac of a deity that they have turned their god into.

http://atheists.org/blog/2011/10/11/god-said-it-i-believe-it-that-settles-it
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:28 AM
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1. And he said it in King James English! n/t
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:42 AM
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2. "dangerous, ignorant, uneducated, hate-filled, narrow-minded, bigoted, intolerant, self-righteous"
Lots of name calling there filled with all purpose accusations. So, who is going to follow the message of hate?
Who falls for it?
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humblebum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 11:57 AM
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3. And notice the source, also.
Atheists.org - very telling.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 06:46 PM
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4. And notice the source, also.
humblebum - very telling.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:12 PM
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6. A lot of people fall for it.
And in the USA, most of them are Christians.

You have to admit that the appeal to authority noted in the OP is about the most idiotic argument--if it IS an argument--imaginable.
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MikeH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:31 PM
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5. The statement is not much different if one replaces "God" with "Hitler"
Edited on Tue Oct-11-11 08:49 PM by MikeH
A believer making the statement “God said it, I believe it, that settles it,” is not much different from a German in the 1930's making the statement “Hitler said it, I believe it, that settles it."

If the God believed in by Christians and other theists is really real (important qualifier: IF), then our critical facilities, which include our common sense and our ability to think logically and rationally, are gifts given to us by God. And if that is the case then using these gifts is much more honoring of God than cringing servile fear of God as of a cosmic tyrant, or uncritical and unquestioning acceptance of anything purportedly said by God in some alleged holy book.

Personal disclosure: I consider myself to be more a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism">Deist than anything else; I have some reasons that I cannot go all the way with being an atheist. Deists, among other things, reject any alleged revelation from God, such as the Bible or the Koran, as actually being such, and I am fully with them about that.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 10:14 PM
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7. Fallacy of authority.
All it proves is that the claimant does not want to know the truth and is, in fact, afraid of it.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 11:34 AM
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8. Yes - I cannot overstate how much I HATE HATE HATE that
The inbreds who say that might as well say "I'm stupid, I'm a sheep, and I'm in denial"
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