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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:03 PM
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I am an Atheist. I still love 'Jesus Christ Superstar' and 'Godspell'
If Christianity were true to itself, it would accept these portrayals as valid Passion Plays

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:04 PM
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1. JC Superstar is one of my all-time favorite musicals...but I'm not at all religious
so I can relate.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:12 PM
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3. Both have some awesome musical numbers
And I freakin' HATE musicals!
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:55 AM
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18. "And I freakin' HATE musicals!" + 10,000 nt
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:54 AM
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17. +1000 nt
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:07 PM
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2. There are some catchy songs in both shows. Singing along doesn't
mean you're going to convert . . . .
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:56 AM
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19. + ?0,000! nt
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:13 PM
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4. Me too; music-loving agnostic here.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:14 PM
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5. Ian Gillian and Murray Head! What's not to like?
:)
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:57 AM
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20. Murray Head: +100,000! nt
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PETRUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:15 PM
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6. About that true to itself thing...
"The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried." -Chesterton

One can be a believer or an unbeliever and see some truth in that.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:28 PM
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7. Yesh. And GK Chesterton was a beleiver.
I can enjoy the by-products of Christianity while not believing!

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 01:12 AM
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11. Ah-yes!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:43 PM
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8. I wasn't nuts about either of those
and I lit roadshows so there was ample opportunity for them to grow on me. They just didn't.

Now, the kickass gospel program on college radio here on Sunday morning is something else. I used to listen to it on the way home from work and I'll tune in if I'm up early.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:53 PM
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9. I'm an atheist - so - so I am not really for "the real Jesus"
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 06:03 PM
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10. I like this myself, as a Fundamentalist Atheist...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56LNciQaabw

I like it because I don't have to hear the dour lyrics in English. And I've always thought parts of this song applied to the atheist experience as well as the Xian.

The lead singer is a Cajun woman named Eleisha Eagle. She has a website.

Oh, this is from the soundtrack of the movie "Little Chenier." Two weeks after the movie wrapped, Hurricane Katrina wiped the town of Little Chenier off the map.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 08:42 AM
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12. Love both of them.
Without Tim Rice, Webber was just a good tune smith, but his musicals alone never had the same weight.
Godspell is great fun.
I can enjoy Peter Pan without believing in Faries, Finnegan's Rainbow without believing in Leprechauns, or Carousel without believing we polish stars after we die.
It's musical theater, and one give's oneself over to the conceit.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 12:35 PM
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13. I still love Beethoven's 9th symphony with its religious lyrics...
...and Handal's Messiah.

I saw Ted Neely in in the '90s in JCS and I have a photo of him and my wife.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 08:38 PM
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14. Beethoven was a Socialist Democrat! Most people don't know that...
His only opera reinforced this...
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 05:52 PM
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21. I knew he was pretty anti-establishment...
...but the words to the chorus of the 9th (which he did not write) are religious.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 05:54 PM
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22. Lots of religious people were socialist back then
Republican Revisionism has made Jesus into a Conservative
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 10:54 PM
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15. Carl Anderson would occasionally sing front and center for this church choir I was in
He was Judas Iscariot in Jesus Christ Superstar, the original film production, and had toured in recent years with Neeley in revivals.

Carl had an amazing voice, the best I have ever heard live and up close. He unfortunately passed away in 2004 of leukemia.

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:48 AM
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16. k&r nt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 08:14 PM
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23. Catholic Gregorian Chant always gives this atheist goosebumps.
Edited on Mon Oct-31-11 08:16 PM by Odin2005
Ditto with African-American gospel music.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 05:18 PM
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28. For me it's Buddhist Chanting
When I lived in Thailand, sometimes I'd go out to the Wat just to hear it
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 08:54 PM
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29. Buddhist chanting is eerie, LOL!
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 09:07 AM
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24. Damn - we atheists were finally getting a reputation as intellectual aesthetes too
And you have to go ruining that. If hell exists, musicals of any kind are its soundtrack, with possible interpolations of rap, country and atonal jazz.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 10:31 AM
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25. Arts get a pass. I wouldn't ban Bugs Bunny just cause he's imaginary.
Religions, the successful ones, are about stories. That's almost like literature. :)

I like Stevie Wonder singing "Ave Maria." It's, ah ... soulful. :smoke:

--imm
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 11:44 AM
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26. This comes up every now and then.
And I'll say it again: A properly sung Ave Maria brings me to tears.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 10:49 AM
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27. I'm largely "Meh" on Godspell but JCS is one of my all-time favourites.
It might be because my first encounter with "Godspell" was a fairly
mediocre school production whereas that with "Superstar" was the film
followed by the London production of it - just couldn't get enough
of the music!

That love of the show was only reinforced by actually playing
Caiaphas in our local production of it a few years back.

:toast:
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