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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:20 PM
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Democrats more bigoted against atheists than the average voter
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But less bigoted than Republicans. I GUESS that's good news.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:26 PM
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1. Evangelicals are the ones that like to get in your face with their religion the most..
And yet they are the most popular.

:crazy:
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:28 PM
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2. Another sign that my party has left me.
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:29 PM
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3. I'm just bigoted against Republicans. Not nice of me, I know.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:31 PM
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4. Not correct: the pole error is about 3% so the difference is within this error.
This is based on the number surveyed (1505)
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:41 PM
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5. How is that "bigoted"?
:shrug:

It's taking something specific into account, just like party affiliation. I'm an atheist, and I'm not comfortable voting for someone who is part of a religion that believes the world will soon inevitably end. Am I a bigot? I think not. A president's religious belief is a valid characteristic to consider.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:01 PM
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6. Would you accept "arrayed against us" instead?
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:46 PM
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12. Agree. Religion is a voluntary association & a reasonable thing for voters to consider.

It's not irrational or hateful to question someone's fitness to lead on the basis of their self-proclaimed beliefs, if you think those beliefs are wrong.
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:53 PM
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7. My only prejudice is against a-holes. I don't care about anyone's
race, religion, non religion, orientation or gender.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:27 PM
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8. Something's wrong here. If you download the PRRI 2011 American Values Survey pdf,
you'll see a sample size of 1505

But there are, in this sample, 360 Republicans, 484 Democrats, 590 Independents, and 169 Tea Partiers:
360 + 484 + 590 = 1434 < 1505 < 1603 = 360 + 484 + 590 + 169

It's a strange sample distribution: I thought Americans were approximately evenly divided between D/I/R. And PRRI unexpectedly claims a larger margin of error for the 590 I-sample than for the smaller 484 D-sample: perhaps this involves their estimates of actual population sizes based on other data used for the re-weighting they say they do?

The reporting of group responses is inconsistent throughout the document, too

I wonder if PRRI has simply split off Republicans sympathetic with the Tea Party and Independents sympathetic with the Tea Party, for some computational purposes. That would pull a number of extremists out of the Republican and Independent ranks -- and it could account for the extraordinarily small Republican sample



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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 01:20 PM
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18. And the age groups do not add up to 1505 either
which indicates there are some "prefer not to answer/non of the above" responders. Given the numbers, I'd suggest that 'Republican', 'Democrat' and 'Independent' were alternatives; and 'Tea Party Member' was a separate question. I can't see there's evidence that when they say 'Republican' in the text, they actually mean 'Republican but not Tea Party', though.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:30 PM
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9. 70% of Democrats uncomfortable with atheists.
:kick:
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 07:37 PM
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13. You just love that fact, don't you?
I guess it's just another majority you belong to.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:08 PM
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14. I think it's the converse.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:38 PM
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10. I think the crux of this poll is in this piece of information:
67% of all voters surveyed said that it was important to them that a presidential candidate have strong religious beliefs.

Further breakdown of this shows a significant generational difference, with * strong beliefs* becoming less important with younger age groups.

So, perhaps the good news is that the prejudice against atheists is waning to some degree?

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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:45 PM
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11. Yeah, that's the same tidbit they throw to glbt people when they want their votes.
It's not enough for us either.

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:15 PM
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15. What are you going to do, vote Republican?
:sarcasm:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:22 PM
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16. You know, I really don't expect things to change in my lifetime.
I would, however, like to go through one election cycle without being fed bullshit sandwiches packaged as "hope".

It's beyond insulting.

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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 04:13 PM
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19. I voted for Amy Klobuchar's Republican opponent for Hennepin County Attorney
Amy K. proved she's not worthy of holding public office when, in an effort to obtain more convictions, she suggested that the prosecution should go last in criminal trials.

If it comes down to who speaks last whether a person gets sent to jail, then the defense should go last. Burden of proof IS on the prosecution, after all.

Sometimes it's more difficult to decide which of the evils is lesser, sometimes it's easier.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:33 PM
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17. Mormons too. nt
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