Workers Atheism in Cuba

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November 11, 2011

Yenisel Rodriguez Perez

Popular revolutions, such as the one that occurred in Cuba in 1959, create deep marks on people’s daily culture, impressions of all kinds. Some foster future freedoms, others gestate oppressions to come.

Every revolution creates its own angels and demons. These remain safeguarded by the people when the government loses the sacred path to the common good and social justice.

Here in homes we can find them present in the everyday world. They accumulate energy to accommodate themselves to the disciplined post-revolutionary domains.

Workers atheism

One of the most terrible of those scars, left in adoption by the former 1959 revolution, was workers atheism. It became the popular form of the previously official anti-religious ideology. It was implemented starting in 1960 and remained in force until the early 1990s.

http://www.havanatimes.org/?p=55375

[cleanhippie]

1. If only people could understand the difference between non-religious and anti-religious.

But that doesn't fit the narrative so well.

[beam me up scottie]

2. Christianity has always been rabidly anti-religious when it comes to other religions.

But atheists are the real bad guys. :eyes:

[dmallind]

3. Yes - Christians are not merely Christians, they are anti-Muslim, anti-Hindu and so on. nt

[beam me up scottie]

4. They have to be, by definition.

It's their god's first commandment.

[dmallind]

5. True dat. Atheists after all are free to be equal or differential nonbelievers as they see fit

I suppose it's safe to say I disbelieve SLIGHTLY less in Christianity than I disbelieve in the Norse pantheon for example (and am thus in this view somewhat less "anti Christian"), in that when I consider the probability of its truth I place the number of decimals to the right of the point before we reach a positive integer to be a few score lower, but since that's out of a few thousand it's not a number that changes my life all that much.

By definition however a Christian who obeys the first commandment must have an equal and infinite number of decimals applied to all other gods.

[beam me up scottie]

6. That's why I'm both an implicit and explicit atheist.

Atheism is about so much more than christianity.

[dmallind]

7. Can only get explicit about specific claims personally.

I can't even explicitly state Biblegod™ does not exist. I can however state that some frequent claims about him are false. For example it's impossible that he is simultaneously all-powerful. all-knowing and all-loving.

[beam me up scottie]

8. Exactly, because it's totally illogical.

"We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes."

~Gene Roddenberry

[cleanhippie]

13. Yet christians seem to not understand that concept.

I think the persecution complex gets in the way.

[humblebum]

14. Are you speaking about your "persecution complex" or someone elses? nt

[cleanhippie]

15. No, just yours. I don't have a complex, I have empirical evidence.

But you like to disregard that being too "narrow minded".

:rofl:

[humblebum]

16. Yes. Empirical evidence of your complex.

Proof: # of anti-religious posts.

[cleanhippie]

17. As usual, you have nothing.

Just more mental masturbation..

[humblebum]

18. I have extrordinary evidence of your anti-religious rhetoric. nt.

[cleanhippie]

19. Perhaps you do, but not from any "other way of knowing".

:rofl:

[humblebum]

9. This is a good illustration of the dangers of organized atheism. nt

[EvolveOrConvolve]

11. What do you think

is the eventual outcome of "organized atheism" in the U.S.? Do you foresee bloodshed or war?

[darkstar3]

20. Read the subthread starting here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=214&topic_id=309926&mesg_id=310159

You'll have an answer to your question.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

21. Posts and others like it

were the impetus for my question. I just want to hear him come right and and say it.

Unfortunately, I think he's got me on Ignore, so he won't see my question at all.

[MarkCharles]

10. "The Roman Catholic Church estimates that 70 percent of the population is Catholic"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Cuba

Evidently Catholicism was and is the majority religion in Cuba.

"Religious beliefs


According to Washington Post, Fidel Castro's letters from prison suggest that he " was a man of unusual spiritual depth – and a fervent believer in God. "

Castro has publicly criticized what he sees as elements of the Bible that have been used to justify the oppression of both women and people of African descent throughout history.

Pope John Paul II visited Cuba in 1998, the first visit by a reigning pontiff to the island. Castro and the Pope appeared side by side in public on several occasions during the visit. Castro wore a dark blue business suit rather than fatigues in his public meetings with the Pope and treated him with reverence and respect.<[br />
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro#Religious_beliefs

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12. That's good info to know.

Thanks.