Gingrich: "Secularism to blame for U.S. Economy"

[MarkCharles]

"Republican presidential candidate and ethically challenged professional scam artist, Newt Gingrich, has news for us. This is why the U.S. economy is in the sorry state it is in. Our country has forsaken his god by embracing secularism. We are now getting the punishment we deserve.
A country that has been now since 1963 relentlessly in the courts driving God out of public life shouldn’t be surprised at all the problems we have. Because we’ve in fact attempted to create a secular country, which I think is frankly a nightmare."

http://www.atheistrev.com/2011/11/gingrich-secularism-to-blame-for-us.html

These people like Gingrich are really very scary people, and to think, he could well become the next President of the USA.

And some posters here actually believe that religion can do no harm?

[marmar]

1. That pig doesn't even believe this crap.....he's trying to appeal to the Talibangelical base.

nt

[rug]

10. You're right. He's pandering.

[opihimoimoi]

2. The OVERBLOWN POMPOUS ASS and his GOPer friends are to blame....not us Socialists

He is using Projection...you noes...blame others for the crime

[Enrique]

3. the suckers should eat that up! n/t

[Thats my opinion]

4. I don't know who these posters are. Who are they?

Religion is a very powerful force, and like all powerful forces it is capable of doing enormous harm. It is also capable of doing enormous good. If you want a soft, pasty non threatening, non-effective force don't mess with religion. But if you are looking for a life and society changing dynamic you might at least make a serious examination. Inquisitions, witch trials and apartheid all have a religious base. So do universities, hospitals and institutions dedicated to the care of the nobodies.

[skepticscott]

7. Why does it matter?

And what "enormous good" can religion do that could not be done without all of the associated harm?

[MarkCharles]

8. What "enormous good" can religion do that could not be done without all of the associated harm?

An excellent question!

(just doing a little "mike-checking" for you, comrade, in case your posts are not being seen by a certain someone)

For a political candidate for the highest office in the USA and the most powerful position in the present world to get up there and pander for votes by claims that non-belief and secular viewpoints are destructive in a democracy, well, only the stupid and uninformed would believe all that, and most of those folks who believe that just happen to be Christians.

[MarkCharles]

11. "dedicated to the care of the nobodies"? Is that your view of

what Christian charity is all about?

I thought we were talking about a democracy in which all people are (or should be) treated equally!

I thought we were talking about a man running for President playing upon the fears and mistrust of the deeply religious in order to get their votes.

Somehow Christian charities like "universities, hospitals and institutions" are only there to care for the "nobodies"?

That's ONE INTERESTING double standard under which to view your fellow American citizens!

[skepticscott]

23. bye. nt

[NMMNG]

26. "The nobodies"

How magnanimous you are, tending to "nobodies" Do all of those people know you think of them as "nobodies"? I've spent my entire adult life working in Human Services and it sickens me that you consider such people "nobodies"

It does help me understand, however, where you get your attitude towards people who aren't in your little circle.

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[MarkCharles]

9. "heard the Gingrich was a brilliant man"...

compared to the people who support him and buy his books. Very true.

[skepticscott]

12. He's smart enough to know

that if you tell people what they want and need to hear, truth and accuracy don't much matter. Especially when your audience is particularly inclined to swallow all the mindless pap they're spoon fed.

[MarkCharles]

15. "audience is particularly inclined to swallow" ... Christian believers are

a very fertile field of those inclined to swallow mindless pap.

[skepticscott]

21. Well, you don't HAVE to be deeply religious

to swallow mindless pap. But if you are, it sure helps it go down easier.

[CJCRANE]

6. Religious governments have been very good

in Iran, Afghanistan and Inquistion-Era Spain...at repressing the people.

[JDPriestly]

13. Gingrich is a panderer.

[struggle4progress]

14. 'what can i say to get attention? look at me! look at me!'

[freshwest]

16. Someone teach this clown American history. Secularism is the reason we're free. He's just lying.

No wonder these clowns are against unions and public schools. That's the move for charters and privatization of everything. Just give it over to a bunch of fanatics. Newt wants American madrassas. Will we let the GOP win in 2012 and drag us back to the dark ages?

[MarkCharles]

17. I am actually very fearful that Newt will easily capture the nomination away

from Romney, as so many Christians have such a big problem with Mormonism, (irony, for sure)and have little problem with a 3 time married philandering Catholic covert who panders to all their fears with meaningless erudition and nonsense.

I fear that the impatience of the American voter will not give Obama a second term, just out of restlessness and inability to understand the massive nature of our current economic dilemma, and failure to see that the Republicans in Congress have actually helped keep it bad and helped make it worse during Obama's years.

Say hello to our new President, Newt Gingrich, smart enough to pull the wool over enough stupid American voters' eyes.

[freshwest]

19. That and the most outrageous electioneering fraud by the GOP in years. Greg Palast said only the

Most overwhelming turnout could prevent the GOP from winning every election since 2000. That happened in 2008 and they've learned to spread disinformation in the media to prevent people from voting, with their 'they're all the same mantra.' People need to wake up and see who's funding all this bullshit. Vote GOP or stay home, and the Koch brothers win every time.

[Scuba]

18. Or in other words, none of our economic policies have panned out, but rather than...

... thinking about that, we'll just blame Gawd.

[pansypoo53219]

20. i'd say the economy is the result of the religion of REAGANISM +

GROVER FUCKING NORQUIST and the party of NO!

[Warren Stupidity]

22. A sputtering boob rises in the polls - looking good next to the Gang of Loons.

And one of this asshats has a real good chance to be presidunce.

[LeftishBrit]

24. Anyone who promotes such views...

is either truly deluded, or a monster of pure evil. Gingrich is probably the latter.

[NMMNG]

25. Whatever Teh Gays aren't blamed for

Atheists are. :eyes:

[MarkCharles]

27. So Gay atheists have no way out of this, none at all, they are the worst...

except for the Muslims, of course.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[NMMNG]

28. Indeed. I'm essentially responsible for every bad thing around.

Global warming, natural disasters of all stripes, Communism, the Holocaust, the destruction of straight marriage and the family, the worldwide HIV/AIDS crisis, 9/11, mass murder, etc, etc. I'm busier than Satan. :evilgrin:

[MarkCharles]

29. Secularism 101 - History, Nature, Importance of Secularism

"Secularism is one of the most important movements in the history of the modern West, helping differentiate the West not only from the Middle Ages and more ancient eras, but also from other cultural regions around the world. The modern West is what it is largely because of secularism; for some, that is a reason to cheer, but for others it is a reason to mourn. A better understanding of the history and nature of secularism will help people understand its role and influence in society today. Why did a secular vision of society develop in Western culture but not so much elsewhere in the world?
Defining Secularism
Secularism is used in a restricted sense today, but it retains a philosophical aspect in political and social situations. Secularism has always carried a strong connotation of the desire to establish an autonomous political and social sphere which is naturalistic and materialistic, as opposed to a religious realm where the supernatural and faith take precedence."