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roman7 Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 12:02 AM
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how do you use the words jesus christ ?
do you consider them holy or do you spit them out ? i noticed myself spitting the words out every time i got angry or wanted to ridicule someone or something. i had been doing it for years and it dawned on me that if those words arent important then why was i useing them ? in a moment of personal reflection i realised that i was damming myself as rejecting the darling of god . everytime i spit those words out it made an impression and it was ugly. the words are important and i pray i remember to use them in a holy manner for the rest of my time.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 12:04 AM
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1. Well, considering how unlikely it is the synoptic gospels actually CONTAIN what Yeshua said...
In fact, no one knows if Yeshua bin Yusuf existed or not...

But if he did, the synoptic gospels did not have his words in it...
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Thats my opinion Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 10:54 AM
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22. if you just take a look at the scholarly evidence
you will see that many of the words attributed to Jesus were classed as authentic, while many others were clouded in the oral tradition which followed him. You statement is a bit over the top. Elsewhere last week I posted materials from two first century chaps Tacitus and Josephus. Take a look.


www.WestarInstitute.org
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 11:08 AM
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24. check out the Jesus Seminar
They judge the authenticity on several levels
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 12:11 AM
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2. Everytime I hear "Jesus Christ" and "dammit" I think of this Bill Cosby skit
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 12:15 AM
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3. ...
:rofl:
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 12:19 AM
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4. well...
I think Jesus gets it.... not so much a problem using his name but maybe the negativity you feel inside he would worry about... Jesus was pretty cool that way!
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 12:35 AM
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5. Seldom
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 12:41 AM
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6. Only when I hit my finger with a hammer, and then with "H. F-----ing" sandwiched in the middle. nt
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 12:41 AM
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7. As blasphemy.
It's the victimlessest crime.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 12:43 AM
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8. You mean like
great jumped up Jesus H. Christ in a sidecar?
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 12:56 AM
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9. i tend to yell out Jesus F------ christ.
Edited on Fri Dec-02-11 12:57 AM by DesertFlower
i'm an atheist so i don't worry about it.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 01:35 AM
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13. Well dammit
I was going to say the same thing.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 01:05 AM
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10. I think it's purely a matter of your own desires and perceptions to shape yourself...
...into the kind of person you believe Christ wants you to be. If you feel that not hollering "jesus christ" in anger or outrage is a useful spiritual discipline, by all means work on avoiding that.

If you feel using the name reverently is a useful spiritual discipline, by all means, do so.

The deepest, most fundamental spiritual struggle for me as a Christian was to realize that all matters of spiritual discipline-- what, why, when, how, etc., were solely between me and That of God, based on MY understanding and MY reading of what Christ demands of me. And that MY understanding, MY reading, and MY determinations of what is important for me as a Christian apply ONLY TO ME, and that I cannot judge others, demand of others, or expect of others, who profess Christ, based on MY understanding.

This is still a discipline I work on every day. But I neither expect it of others, nor have any judgement of whether it would be a good thing for others.

Words are important. But how I discipline myself to use them is likely to be very different from how others professing Christ will discipline themselves to use them.

contemplatively,
Bright
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 01:11 AM
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11. You remind me of a Jesuit professor I once had.
And that's a compliment, by the way. :hi: Very insightful post.

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roman7 Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 01:27 AM
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12. best answer ive got yet
i read the bible because i was tired of depending on others views & i prayed often and reverently that god would help me to understand what he wanted me to understand . the main thing i came away with was that god suffers to achieve .
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 01:37 AM
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14. God doesn't suffer.
If god could suffer, he wouldn't be god.

He is an anthropomorphic construct to explain human suffering.
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roman7 Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 01:51 AM
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16. i like the idea of a god who suffers with us and for us
with achievement as a goal
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 04:29 PM
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27. So your god is a masochist?
A omniscient, omnipresent, all-powerful creator of the entire univers which has a hundred billion stars for each person who is or ever has been alive on earth is going to 'suffer with us'?

And just why would he do that?

Either he is a very small god with a good PR department, or you are extraordinarily narcissistic.

One or the other of you is delusional.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 01:50 AM
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15. Thank you. I am going to think about that. There is beauty in the concept.
And I choose to believe that all beauty is a fragmentary glimpse of the Divine.

appreciatively,
Bright
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:04 AM
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17. Seldom, but usually right before the words "monkey balls."
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Abin Sur Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:13 AM
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18. I don't consider them holy, nor do I spit them out.
Not surprising, though, given that I never use profanity or religious interjections in conversation.

(and yes, my friends consider this one of my...odder quirks)

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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:22 AM
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19. Why does this remind me of Yahoo answers after middle school quitting time.....
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:50 AM
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20. Like everything else of consequence, it depends. Sometimes you use a cell phone as a hammer.
For some odd reason, I have a bunch of nice liberal (or radical) Christians in my personal community and no fundies. So I find myself seriously talking about the person/myth fairly regularly, and I have no need or desire to offend these people. For them to give up their sense of the spiritual is about as attractive to them as acquiring some sort of major disability - blindness, autism, deafness, Alzheimers - would be to most people.

On the other hand, there's people I encounter on a rare basis who use "Jesus" in such an offensive way that I will respond "fuck Jesus with a chainsaw" just to shut them up.

It's a word. The meaning depends on the context, and the interpretation of the listeners. In this society, it's a word that has some really different meanings for different people. Personally, my brain has a whole folder under "Jesus" and I rarely if ever open all the documents at once, so to speak. In fact, I think my machine would crash if I tried.

And I never have a problem singing along with either https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNQXQKflJNA">Oh Happy Day or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oPZApOa_iU">Jesus Gave Me Water.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 09:42 AM
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21. Very rarely. In fact, I can't remember the last time I paired
those two words.
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deacon_sephiroth Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 11:06 AM
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23. creatively... n/t
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 11:15 AM
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25. Like Graham Chapman in Monty Python And The Holy Grail.
JEE-zus CHRIST!!!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 11:23 AM
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26. Words have no intrinsic meanings.
They are merely signifiers for concepts. And yeah, I use it as an interjection and I mean it to sound a bit harsh.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 09:39 PM
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28. Generally I wrap them around the words "tapdancing" or "tittyfucking"
Or Horace. I wasn't really sure what the H. stands for, and I figured Horace worked nicely. Or Horus if one's feeling ecumenical.
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 10:03 PM
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29. You owe me a laptop.
"Jesus tittyfucking Christ!"

:spray::rofl:
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 06:45 AM
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30. Points for creativity!
Jesus Zombie Christ!
Christ on a stick!
Delicious Zombie Jesus!
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 04:38 PM
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31. As an interjection. eom
n/t
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