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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 05:21 AM
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Reluctant child bride was warned she'd lose 'salvation - Warren Jeffs
By Ann O'Neill
CNN

(CNN) -- Polygamist sect leader Warren Jeffs warned a teenage girl forced into a "spiritual marriage" to submit to sex with her husband or face "losing your salvation," Utah authorities claimed in an affidavit.

The five-page document was filed in Las Vegas, Nevada, on Thursday in support of two charges that Jeffs' practice of arranging marriages between young girls and older men makes him an accomplice to rape.

(con't)http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/31/jeffs.affidavit/index.html

Ok, so I'll bite. So tell me which Christian religion doesn't tell their adherents that if the don't do some such thing or another their way they will loose their salvation and therefore burn in hell. That is the core of Christian theology.

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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 05:51 AM
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1. The Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints
is not a Christian religion, it is a cult!!! Very similar to the James Jones group in Guyana, Remember them?
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 05:52 AM
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2. And by what definition to you classify it as a cult? n/t
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:13 AM
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3. Ask the non-polygamous Latter Day Saints
They are the group that refer to the FLDS as a cult.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:28 PM
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8. Oh, you mean the people who accepted persecurtion by the
mainstream Christians so that their state could get admitted to the Union.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 01:44 AM
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13. Hmm ... pot, kettle ...
I can't tell the difference!
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:14 AM
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4. Here, read up some more about this cult...
You should also know, all teenage twittering aside, that the "wives" frequently referenced, can be young as 13 years old, I've even read of cases of 10 years old. In some cases the girl maybe even be one of his "wives'" daughters. The FLDS has also been getting away with tax fraud, welfare fraud, domestic violence, child molestation and rape, and incest frequently under the "watchful" eye and with, at the very least a conspiracy of silence while these men place "pass the child". This is not one community, it is several, it is not about one man getting his "rocks" off with children, it's perhaps over a 1000. The FLDS has approximately 10,000 members in the U.S. and Canada. Women are beaten and raped, children are beaten and raped and teenage boys are abandoned as they might be "competition" for the sick old "priests".

And regardless of what you think of other Christian religions, most don't hold up in compounds forcing their people into hard labor, cutting them off from the outside world and raping their own children. That is what qualifies this group as a cult at the least, slavery at the worst.

It is not limited to a "small" community that is on the AZ/UT border.

Jeffs is the leader of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, headquartered in the twin communities of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Ariz.


There are also compounds in southwest Texas,

The church members began arriving at a former exotic game ranch just northeast of Eldorado and about 40 miles south of San Angelo about 2 1/2 years ago and starting building their fortress-like YFZ Ranch, short for Yearning For Zion. An 80-foot tall gleaming white temple dominates the property where Doran said about 70 people live


South Dakota

People linked to Jeffs have living quarters in a secretive compound near Pringle (South Dakota).


Canada

The sect, a group of self-described "fundamentalist Mormons," includes the 1,000-member community of Bountiful near Creston, B.C. That community was headed by its former bishop, Winston Blackmore, who has more than 20 wives and at least 103 children.

He was excommunicated by Jeffs several years ago, leaving the community split.



And perhaps even a "safe house" in Nevada

Most of the church's members live in Hildale, Utah, and adjoining Colorado City, Ariz., but authorities have said they believe Jeffs had "safe houses" in four other states _ including Nevada _ and Canada.


Where he also has businesses which may fund his "church."

"Jacob Jessop is one of Warren Jeffs loyalists, and one of his money men, if you will," Flora Jessop said.

Law enforcement authorities believe that funds from polygamist business enterprises have been used to support Warren Jeffs and to help him remain a fugitive.

In recent years, several polygamist outposts have popped up in Southern Nevada, drawn by explosive growth. Records show Jacob Jessop's construction firm, JNJ, is licensed in Nevada but based in Colorado City.

Since 2004, it has earned more than $7 million on nine projects commissioned by the Las Vegas Valley Water District, including ongoing work at the massive Springs Preserve operation. JNJ has also won contracts with the city of Las Vegas and Clark County.


A Utah machine shop that authorities say has ties to one of the FBI's Top Ten Most Wanted fugitives is changing its name and moving to Las Vegas.

Western Precision Inc. is among the biggest employers of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (FLDS) in Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Ariz. The border towns are home to 5,000-8,000 followers of fugitive church prophet Warren Jeffs, who was placed on the FBI's Top Ten list in May on charges of sexual misconduct with a minor and unlawful flight to avoid prosecution. Attorneys for Western Precision filed court documents in early June stating that the company would move to Las Vegas by August. Days after the filing, Western Precision changed its name to Newera Manufacturing Inc., according to the Utah Division of Corporations. On July 3, Newera Manufacturing was registered in Nevada as a foreign corporation, according to the secretary of state's office. link


In addition to polygyny, Jeffs has also been responsible for "arranging marriages" for 13 year old girls, and "casting out" those men who would "compete" for brides or who were "disobedient".

During his four-year rule, the number of underage marriages — some involving girls as young as 13 — escalated into the hundreds, church dissidents said. They said that although the sect has long practiced the custom of arranged marriages, young girls were rarely married off until Warren Jeffs came to power.

People expelled from the community said young men were sent away to avoid competition for brides. Older men were cast out for alleged disobedience, and their wives and children were reassigned by Jeffs to new husbands and fathers, the former members said. link


It is also alleged that Jeffs' "communities" and businesses are engaging in welfare fraud, tax dodging, domestic violence and child abuse.

The activities in the community have often appeared out of reach of law enforcement. Members of plural families have in the past come to the attention of state and local officials through occasional allegations of welfare fraud, tax dodging, domestic violence and child abuse.

But officials have said that cases were difficult to build, with trouble finding witnesses to testify.

In Hildale earlier this year, thousands of polygamists were engaged in a standoff over overdue property taxes of about $1.3 million for hundreds of houses.


And just in case that isn't enough to make this more than a "local" issue, perhaps you'd like to hear that the local and, in some cases, state "authorities" in the areas in which some of these compounds are located may perhaps be aiding and abetting Jeffs and his followers.

The state of Arizona is contributing to the secrecy. The state Department of Health Services and the Department of Economic Security have been quietly providing services to assist the children and families of fumarase victims for more than 15 years.


And may be hiding an the occurrence of a genetic disease known as fumarase deficiency.

Tarby and a team of doctors from Barrow Neurological Institute at St. Joseph's Hospital in Phoenix and the University of Arizona College of Medicine in Tucson began researching the disease and soon discovered that fumarase deficiency was occurring in at least two other families living in the same isolated community that practiced an unusual custom.


Hmm, looks a bit more involved than "local" news to me.

P.S.

po·lyg·a·my n.

1. The condition or practice of having more than one spouse at one time. Also called plural marriage.

polygyny –noun
1. the practice or condition of having more than one wife at one time.


These people are practicing polygyny not as the media keeps saying, polygamy. The women are NOT allowed multiple husbands.

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:32 AM
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5. Good research one more point
Unless I have missed something, people of color need not apply for joining FLDS
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:51 AM
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6. Absolutely good point!
Shame on me for not including that part.

Jeffs quotes on race: (I'll update my research to include, thanks for the reminder) :D

"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, or rude and filthy, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits; wild and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is usually bestowed upon mankind."


"It was necessary that the Devil should have a representation upon the earth as well as God. So Ham's wife that was preserved on the Ark was a Negro of the seed of Cain and there was a priestly purpose in it, that the Devil would have a representation as well as God."


"And the lesson is, if anyone mingles their seed, their bloodline, with the seed of Cain, the Negro, they also would lose all rights and priesthood blessings."


Can be viewed at this link. There is also a link to audio recordings of Jeffs saying this filth.

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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:27 PM
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7. Yeah, and there were WMD's in Iraq
Edited on Fri Sep-01-06 12:33 PM by Freedom_from_Chains
I might also add that when Greta VanSustran was reading from the charging instrument in this case last night none of the items you mention was in that filing. Not to mention most of the charges that were in the filing seem to be real clear on exactly which statues they violated, except of course being polygamous.

I guess Democrats have their hysterical little foibles like some Republicans also.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:37 PM
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9. What? Religion responsible for another heinous act.
Get out of town. I am astounded and suprised.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:40 PM
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10. Yeah, I have never heard of any other religious sect using their
theology for mind control. Maybe that explains why Jeff's ending up at the top of the Ten Most Wanted list.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:56 PM
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11. As Arwalden would say:
Edited on Fri Sep-01-06 12:59 PM by Evoman



"Yeah, I have never heard of any other religious sect using their

theology for mind control."

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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 04:21 AM
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12. Now now Evoman - laugh to yourself not at your opponent.
:)

Or at least go on to explain your position more fully.

Not sounding too uptight am I? (It is ok to tell me if yes)

And also... would I be correct in my suspicion that you posted that very quickly after reading?
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