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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:02 PM
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If officially the Qur'an was not created but is co-eternal with God...
then the Qur'an didn't actually mean anything originally, did it? After all, before the Arabic language existed, the Qur'an was nothing more than a sequence of symbols open to a variety of quite different interpretations.

In some languages, "sex" means "6", but in English it doesn't mean "6."

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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:50 PM
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1. The Qur'an is on the same level as the Bible. Both made the same
way. And which languages is the word "sex" mean 6?
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:08 PM
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2. Latin (nm)
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 10:03 AM
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3. There's a reason the prayers have to be in Arabic.
Since language, by even archaic semiotic theories, are symbols with meaning only by virtue of having somebody there to attribute meaning to it;

Since the Qur'aan is co-eval with Allah, and is in Arabic;

I don't see the problem.

Allah, as experiencer, was the necessary observer.

In other events, there are hints that some believe Arabic has always existed. Or, like some used to believe for Latin or Greek, that God played a role in guiding the human's language to the pattern of the language he already spoke. As it is it's dreadfully hard to mount a principled critique of the language of the Qur'aan. The dissertations I've seen have mostly dripped with effusive praise and say that it is the pinnacle of literary form (not "Arabs consider it the pinnacle of literary form", note the difference!)--hardly what you expect in a secular dissertation in the US from a prominent secular university. Criticism comes from non-Muslims that are fluent in the language of the Qur'aan and have few or no ties with a Muslim community.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 10:14 AM
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4. Who officially states it is co-eternal? n/t
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