Report: Shirtless Mets VP challenges (AA)players to fight

[JonLP24]

The Mets are presently discussing the fate of Tony Bernazard, the vice president of player development, after a report surfaced today that he bullied the Double-A team in Binghamton and challenged the players to a fight in the clubhouse.

A person familiar with the situation said today that general manager Omar Minaya was trying to save Bernazard's job and it appears that he will not be fired. Minaya also attempted to protect Willie Randolph before he was fired last June. But it was Bernazard, who had been overly critical of Randolph, that ultimately succeeded in his efforts to get the manager axed.

The Mets have refused comment on the subject today other than to issue a one-line statement: "We take these reports very seriously and are investigating the matters."

According to a report in the Daily News, Bernazard took his shirt off during a tirade and targeted infielder Jose Coronado. The incident occurred about 10 days before the All-Star break, the report said.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-spbern0723,0,3683794.story

[cboy4]

1. The Chokers are just one big happy family.

[inthebrain]

3. Yeah, the Frisco Small guys are falling apart

and everyone who posts here is enjoying watching you squirm.

[cboy4]

4. No, they're having a bad stretch. But I appreciate how closely you're

following them now.

[inthebrain]

5. Yeah, they are choking

Like they have been doing for 55 years.

Losers of 5 out of 6 to San Deigo, Pittsburgh and Atlanta!!!!

Ya know, those teams you should beat if you expect to make the post season.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

maybe next time you declare Frisco "contenders" you should check to see if they have anyone in their lineup capable of scratching together at least 100 RBIs in a season.

Losers.

[cboy4]

6. Yes, five games after the all-star game and they're finished. I mean there's

only 69 games left to at the very least, catch the Rockies (a team nobody cares about) who are a devastating one half game ahead of us.

How will we ever catch them? :cry:

:eyes:

[inthebrain]

7. Frisco Chokers are toast. Even one of your own bloggers thinks the same thing

I was going to write a long, in-depth piece that compared Kevin Frandsen's minor league career to the minor league careers of the top 15 major league second basemen, but my internet connection went down. Then it went back up. Then back down. Then up. Now, as of 11:00 a.m., it's down. So I'll have to make do with a research-free post, or as I like to call them, a "typical and ordinary weekday post." I'll summarize the point of the canceled post in a sentence: Because Brian Roberts didn't have have the numbers that Frandsen did in the upper minors, science says that Frandsen will have a better major league career.

It's probably for the best, though, as my heart wasn't really in a pseudo-research mode. Today, my heart is full of hate. The All-Star break was long, and during the entire break, I was allowed to fantasize about a playoff-bound Giants team. They would have made it if the season ended at the break, of course. I hate that I was duped, bamboozled, and possibly even hornswoggled. This team, as presently assembled, is a reaaaaal stinker.

After the jump, there's more hate.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/7/22/958161/hate


I hope you're enjoying this as much as the rest of the board is.

Nine games under .500 on the road is not going to get you into the post season.

[cboy4]

8. That's why it's July 22. You're talking like it's September 22.

But I understand why you're projecting all of your bitterness about the Chokers on the Giants.

How much was your payroll again this year?

$135,773,988 :wow:

Not bad at six games under .500 and plunging much, much further.

[inthebrain]

9. Take it up with your own Frsco Chokers blogger

Really sad that even he thinks your toast.

You live in a fantasy land.

How much are the Frisco Chokers paying you to play "Baghdad Bob" for them?

[JonLP24]

10. Make that one FULL game ahead

Rockies 4, Diamondbacks 3.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=290722127

[cboy4]

11. Wow, another home game against the Diamondbacks. How many more

times can we expect to see Arizona roll over in Denver?

[JonLP24]

12. Today was the last game so far

They open up a 3 game series vs San Francisco starting this Friday.

[cboy4]

15. Well good. It's nice to know they're facing competition this weekend.

Not that anyone cares who the Rockies play!!

[JonLP24]

16. So you don't care that the Rockies play the Giants this Friday?

Also you don't care that the Rockies will possibly increase their lead over the Giants?

[cboy4]

17. Of course I care. I'm just saying it to give you a hard time.

[JonLP24]

18. I figured that much

I was just responding accordingly.

[inthebrain]

13. Stop whining

You've played Arizona nine times already.

Thanks to the fact that you can't sweep anyone you took 6-9. last I checked the Frisco Chokers play the DBacks the same amount of times as the Rockies this season.

The Frisco chokers have no killer instinct and it's come back to bite them in the ass. HARD!!!!

You also just lost 5-6 to San Diego, Pittsburgh and Atlanta.

WAAHHHH WAAHHHH WAAHHHHH!!!!

[inthebrain]

2. They need to clean house

It's getting ridiculous. It's already beyond that point.

Wilpon needs to get rid of Minaya and Manuel. Restructure the organization from the development staff on up. The Mets have been long overdue to have theiy system of player development overhauled. Over the last 15 years or so they really haven't gotten much out of their system. I would say Wright and Reyes are the exception and not the rule.

Even the medical staff is under investigation from the players association. It took a long time for the Mets to become an attractive place for free agents to sign. They were getting to a point where player would take a discount to play here as the team offered them a chance to win. They peaked in 06 and it's been nothing but a circus sideshow since.

[Yavin4]

14. Who Here Has Ever Had A Shirtless Fight?

That seems very strange to me.

[Forkboy]

19. Quite a few actually.

[MrSlayer]

20. Why? Clothes give the opponent something to grab.

Pulling the shirt over the head is not just a hockey fight move. It's an effective move in any fight.

[JonLP24]

21. That is true

I was even taught that move as well as various other moves in hand-to-hand combatics training in the Army.

[inthebrain]

22. LOL I was always Taught to grab the thumb or use Wrist Bend Knuckle Press

I used to have to do restraints in the hospitals.

In the ER the Nurses occassionally got attacked and that shit worked like a charm. You can literally controll someones whole body with it.

[JonLP24]

23. To be honest

I forgot most of everything I was taught sometimes immediately. I never did well in combatics matches, I even lost one in embarrasing fashion. For example to start we sit back-to-back with our arms stretched and we clap at go to start the match. We after the clap part the guy behind me simply reached around my neck and got me in an instant chock hold.

I just remember bits and pieces but not a whole lot.

[MrSlayer]

24. It takes a lot of practice.

No one becomes Bruce Lee overnight.

[inthebrain]

25. I was never really good in a fight either

Years ago I got a job as a bouncer and also as a Special Police in an emergency room.

They give you some training on how to take people down.

I was always amazed how I was able to use that stuff in real situations. I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that I was never emotionally invested in the fight. It's really all about staying calm, cool and in control. Let the other guy whale about like a lunatic.

You get two hands on a thumb or use that wrist press they panic and go right down.

[Forkboy]

27. The ones who say, "When I fight I see red!" are the ones you want to fight.

:)

[inthebrain]

30. Yeah, those are the ones that are full of shit

They don't see red.

Nobody sees red.

They usually close their eyes and flail about. Kinda like the twins trying to defend their positions.

[JonLP24]

28. I'm sure I had that done to me

Pressure points is it? I've had various type of pressure point moves peformed on me and I'd instantly be helpless. The combatics trainers didn't stress using pressure points so much but there were many soldiers that already knew those kind of moves.

I think one chock hold that was especially useful for me so I used it every time I was on top of someone and it was like take your right hand and grab the left side of the collar, the left hand on the right side and just squeeze downwards. I still remember a few moves I could probably use if the situation ever presented itself.

The interesting thing unless you were in expert the bigger and stronger ones usually won their matches.

[hughee99]

26. Double A hell, someone on the Major league roster should get his ass kicked

for the Mets performance this year.

[inthebrain]

29. That should be Minaya

I don't fault a lot of the guys on the roster.

Lots of em are playing over their heads and out of position covering for injured players.

[hughee99]

32. I agree, the Mets biggest problems, for the most part,

wear suits, not uniforms. I just posted below. I had no idea how few players they developed (and kept). Their Major league roster contains almost no farm system products. They've made a habit of trading away good prospects for questionable "established" talent.

[inthebrain]

33. None of those prospects have ever panned out

That's the scary thing.

It would be one thing it they really were developing these guys, trading them, and got burned cause they went off to become superstars.

Wright and Reyes are not the rule, they are the exception. For years they over valued guys like Jay Peyton, Paul Wilson, Rey Ordonez, Bill Pulispher etc. Their farm system is a mess and if I'm Wilpon I use this as an opportunity to clean out the organization. It's been about 20 years overdue.

[hughee99]

34. Kazmir for Victor Zambrano is the one that always sticks out for me.

But yes, overall, they give overvalued prospects (ones that don't pan out) for overvalued players in trades.

[inthebrain]

36. I forhot about that one

I don't think what was Minaya though.

I think that was just before he got here.

The trade for Santana was steal. All of those guys turned out to be bums that went the other way. Those were some of our more highly touted prospects.

[hughee99]

31. He was probably bored...

Since the Mets don't develop (and keep) their players, he probably had nothing else to do. It just occurred to me that this guy works in player development. You'd think a team hit by injuries as much as the Mets have been would be giving their top prospects some playing time. By my count, the Mets active roster currently contains 6 players who reached the Majors via the Mets organization... Wright, Reyes, Murphy, Pelfrey, Parnell and Feliciano. None of their other players came up through the Mets organization. This isn't even including the guys on the DL (Beltran, Putz, Wagner, Delgado...).

[madinmaryland]

35. Didn't Steve Phillips (Mets GM) get busted for sexual harrasment a few years back?

Something about the Mets?

Now he is on ESPN. Well so is Marv Albert.

[hughee99]

37. I forgot about Phillips, but here's what I found...

For a brief stint in 1998, Phillips took a leave of absence as general manager because of a sexual harassment suit. He admitted to consensual sex with the woman who filed the suit, as well as multiple other affairs, but denied harassment and the civil suit was settled out of court. Phillips was away from the team for a total of 8 days. The Mets defended Phillips privately and publicly, and the alleged victim's attorney was even quoted as believing in his sincerity.

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/11/26/sports/baseball-mets-settle-claim-of-harassment.html?n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fSubjects%2fS%2fSexual%20Harassment

[inthebrain]

38. I forgot about that

all I remember was him constantly throwing Bobby V under the bus and his public feud with Scott Boras.

He really was a major asshole.

[JonLP24]

39. Well the game just ended

Giants lost another one.

http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=290722115