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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:57 AM
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Among most of Washington's pro sports teams, misery loves company
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/11/AR2010011103599.html

By Thomas Boswell
Tuesday, January 12, 2010

Bad times bring the truth to the surface. And that's good. The truth may not set you free, but if you are the Redskins, Wizards or Nationals, at least it might get you out of last place. No team wants to admit that it is a mess. No owner wants to confess that he has meddled too much or spent too little or trusted the wrong executives. No franchise wants to face that it's built a losing culture or pampered its big stars or that it simply has no identity. Nobody wants to say, "We failed."

However, in the past year, the Redskins, Nats and now the Wiz have all fallen so low, both in the standings and in their public misadventures, that they have become national jokes. Their hideous won-lost records -- 4-12, 59-103 and 12-23 -- have been surpassed by their off-field embarrassment.

As a result, cataclysmic changes, almost certainly for the better, have already shaken the Nats and Redskins. Vinny Cerrato and Jim Zorn are gone, replaced by Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan. Jim Bowden and Manny Acta have departed, too, replaced by Mike Rizzo and Jim Riggleman. In the glow of Shanahan's arrival and the busy offseason of Rizzo, it's hard to find a fan who doesn't think both shakeups are improvements.

Just as vital, both team's owners give hints that they may alter their ways. Like the billionaires they are, they never quite say, "I was wrong," but it looks like Dan Snyder may want to meddle less and Ted Lerner is willing to spend more. Keep it up, guys. It's a start.

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:12 AM
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1. Well, This Is Your Territory. What Do You Think About It?
It is a good article (expected from Boswell), but i don't have the background to know if he's right or not. You're much closer to it than i am, Mad. What say you?
GAC
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:21 AM
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2. It really too early to tell. As long as Snyder is owner of the Redskins
there is always going to be a question as to who is running the team. The Wizards are definitely in disarray with the whole Arenas gun incident, and the Nat's are two or three years away from any judgement as to their improvement. They signed the number one pick last year, but one pitcher is going to change alot. Will the Nat's spend money in order to be competitive (and do they actually have the money to??) Peter Angelos is siphoning off a good portion of their television/radio revenue, so I don't if they will have the money to improve.

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:31 AM
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3. Thanks, Mad
I kind of thought the same as you about the Wiz, because i do follow the NBA. The whole league interests me.

But, i don't know enough about the Nats. Of course, i know something about the Redskins, because they are national in scope. However, i'd trade you owners. You take the McCaskey's, and i'll take Snyder. A hands-off ownership isn't working any better for us than your hands on guy is working for you!

Maybe a change in scenery would work for all of us!

What do you think? Do we have a deal? I'll call Ginny and Danny.
GAC
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:00 PM
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4. Uhmm. I am a Cowboys fan. I'll keep Jerry Jones.
:D

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 02:28 PM
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16. I Figured The Maryland Thing Made You Closer To The Facts
I'd trade for Jerry Jones, too.
GAC
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:16 PM
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8. You're asking someone who apparently hates all DC teams
But yes I would trade in a heartbeat--Snyder is George Bush arrogant and just as incompetent.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:12 PM
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6. The Nats have plenty of money
Should I ask where your info is coming from? They just offered the Cuban pitcher 20 million. I think you just hate Washington teams--which is okay--but please say so up front.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:20 PM
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11. My Nat's comment came from the fact that the Nat's ranked 27th
in payroll last year at approx. $60M. Need I bring up the attendance issue also, which they ranked 24th? This in addition to their horrible television contractor that Peter Angelos squeezed out of them.

It's just an observation. As a clarification, I am a Pirates fan that ranked below the Nat's in all of those stats last year, except for the final w-l standings.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:25 PM
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14. Pirates and Cowboys? What a combo
BTW, --Ex Nat Ryan Church just signed with the Bucs. He is very good when healthy.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:05 PM
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5. It's amazing what a little talent and good coaching can do.


:)
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:15 PM
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7. Hot linking again, forkboy??
:D

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:17 PM
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9. No, this is hot linking.


:)
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:21 PM
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12. Jeebus Dude! I'm not going to get anything done this afternoon!
:rofl:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:19 PM
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10. Dude----You're a Pirate fan...
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:22 PM
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13. Come on tru! Are you starting in on the REAL SPORTS FAN crap again!
I thought we had finally gotten rid of that!

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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 02:23 PM
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15. Nah man...
Not at all--- but your post is all about Misery--- I'd think you know a bit about it with your Pirate love.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 03:23 PM
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17. Not as miserable as some fans. The Pirates have won three World Series
titles in the last 55 years!
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 07:46 PM
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18. True dat.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:15 PM
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19. I lived in DC 1971 and 1972.
The place went crazy when George Allen took the Redskins to the playoffs in '71. I could only manage to find (meaning afford since I was in the Army) a ticket to one game that year. Had no problem making it to a Senators' game, but it only took one to keep me from going back. They moved to Texas the next year.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:15 PM
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20. Go Caps!
:thumbsup:
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