Chicago meetings end; NFL, players now set to meet in Boston

[madinmaryland]

ROSEMONT, Ill. (AP) -- NFL owners have been briefed on discussions for a new collective bargaining agreement that would net the players just under 50 percent of total revenues. Next up: more talks with the players.

Several people with knowledge of the negotiations told The Associated Press that Commissioner Roger Goodell and his labor committee will meet with players association chief DeMaurice Smith on Wednesday and Thursday in Boston. The owners spent five hours Tuesday getting updated on various CBA issues. The people spoke on condition of anonymity because the negotiations are supposed to be confidential.

"We're going to meet with them soon and we're eager to accelerate the pace of the negotiations," said Jeff Pash, the league's chief negotiator.

One person told the AP that the players' share would approach the 50 percent the NFLPA has said it has received throughout the last decade. But the expense credits - about $1 billion last year - that the league takes off the top would disappear.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/06/21/labor.ap/index.html#ixzz1PxRH5qJF

Well maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

[Yavin4]

1. If What SI Is Reporting Turns Out To Be True, The Players Won

Getting 48% of ALL revenues is going to be huge for the players, esp. as new media will become the primary revenue source for the league. For example, instead of DirectTV owning the exclusive out of market rights, the NFL should open take that away and allow anyone, any where to buy whatever game they want. The potential revenue from that alone could be astronomical.

This is a major win for the players, if true.

[madinmaryland]

2. That's what I thought when I first read the report also.

[ProfessorGAC]

3. Not The Way I Read The Numbers

If they get 48% of $9 billion, that's less than 59% of $8 billion.

So, they gave something to get something. But, a marginal net loss.
GAC

[Yavin4]

5. From What I Read, The $8 Billion Represented "Designated Revenue"

The proposed new deal would be for 48% of ALL revenue, and ALL revenue will be a lot more than $9 billion. None of us have all of the facts, so we won't know for sure.

[ProfessorGAC]

7. What?

I'm just using the numbers in the press and elsewhere right here on this thread. The way the released information reads they get 48% rather than 60% of pile that is abuot 13% higher.

Unless the currently available public information is preposterously off-base, the numbers are going to work out such that the players are giving something back.

GAC

[Yavin4]

9. From the SI Article Linked Above

Also, there would no longer be "designated revenues" from which the players would share, the person said. Instead, the players would share from the entire pie, which they project will grow significantly over the course of the new CBA, which is expected to run anywhere from six to 10 years. So if they are taking 48 percent or more of a much higher revenue stream -- without the initial NFL deduction for operating expenses -- the players still would receive far more money than they got under the previous agreement.



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/06/21/labor.ap/index.html#ixzz1QEVn4mlV

[ProfessorGAC]

10. The Math Just Doesn't Work Out

The only way it ends up with the players making "far more money" is if revenues are at LEAST 25% higher than currently known.

The owners aren't smart enough to hide 25% of revenues from the players.
GAC

[Yavin4]

11. The Players Got 60% of DESIGNATED REVENUE

Designated revenue means that some of the overall revenue was withheld from being shared with the players.

The proposed offer is for 48% of ALL revenue. ALL revenue > DESIGNATED revenue.

Also, ALL NFL revenue will grow rapidly over the next few years.

[ProfessorGAC]

12. The Stated Numbers Were. . .

. . 8 billion designated with 1 billion off the top.

It's in a hundred articles and blogs. The revenue total is 9 billion, and owners take one off the top. The players get 60%.

Now they get 48% of the whole pie. That's less money.

I don't know where you're getting the idea that there is this whole missing money pile.

The players KNOW what the owners make. They're not stupid. They just agreed to ignore a significant chunk of it. Now, they're willing to take a smaller piece of a bigger pie.


The numbers are out there. You seem determined to ignore them by suggesting we don't know the facts.

Besides, the biggest change is the funding of pensions and LT medical by the owners AFTER the split.

So, that's the piece the players are really getting. They're taking less now to have the back end strengthened. That will mean a whold lot to the guys making 300k and only last 4 years when they need a hip replacement. The big money guys are going to be ok anyway.
GAC

[SpiralHawk]

4. Appropriately, the players will meet in the City of Champions

[madinmaryland]

6. Huh? According to the artical they are meeting in Boston.

:wtf:

[SpiralHawk]

8. Blinded by the bling? It happens