Texas A&M is about to change the college football world...

[Condem]

..and looks like nothing to stop them. Just to get away from the absolute piece of shit Longhorns. The SEC takes #13 then #14 is sure to follow. Then we have super-conferences. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6859792/texas-aggies-expected-departure-brings-us-back-brink

[fishwax]

1. I was wondering if you were going to post about realignment, condem

I thought about posting a few links over the last couple of days, but it really seemed more appropriate to wait for you :)

Latest rumors I hear have SEC bumping up to 16 teams -- apparently Missouri has said they're staying put, but I've heard their name mentioned along with Clemson, Florida State, and Virginia Tech. Also Oklahoma, although I think OU would rather (a) keep some corpse of the Big 12 together or (b) go to the Pac 1x.

[Condem]

2. Fish, you are a man amongst boys.

The whole Gottlieb deal has me flummoxed. The SEC is not going to take just anyone. Adding A&M is genius. It's all about the TV sets. Cynical, I know. But you have at least 2 million viewers in Tejas for A&M. Fuck Texas. Fuck Clemson, FSU and VT. Take Oklahoma and you wrap up the national title for the next ten years. The Big 12 is dead and every other conference has to scramble. What does the Big Ten get? Fucking Notre Dame?

[fishwax]

3. Oklahoma brings a good on-field product, but not as much in the way of TV sets

That's OU's problem. They're a national brand, to be sure, but don't have the weight of a Texas. Truth is, A&M doesn't either. They don't pull as much of the Texas market as UT would, quite simply.

I don't see what A&M hopes to achieve, aside from independence from Texas. They've won one conference title in the history of the Big XII, and that was years ago, before Stoops arrived and when Brown was in his first year. They haven't won a division title since Stoops arrived. They'll get some cash from the SEC, I suppose, but I don't see them improving their program significantly.

I agree the Big 12 is dead--if not this year than very soon. I have full confidence that OU will land on its feet, but I wonder about some of the others in the league--Kansas, KSU, and Iowa State don't have much power to wield here, and OSU/T-Tech's best assets are assumption that their in-state brethren won't leave them cold ...

[hughee99]

5. Will A&M's move to the SEC improve their recruitment prospects

in Texas? I'm not sure, but I suspect being in the SEC will help them recruiting. If their real concern was not being able to get past Texas and Oklahoma, the SEC isn't going to be any kinder to them.

[Condem]

7. Again, I hate to be cynical, but this move is about the $$.

The Big Ten Network has changed the landscape of college football. When A&M sees what a gold mine like Indiana is making for being a sub-par football program, it boggles the mind. The SEC is equal sharing. The Big 12 with hideous Texas will NEVER be. Mike Slive said at the SEC media daze that he can "get four schools in fifteen minutes". We may be about to find that out. If the SEC makes the move, the other conferences will not sit still.

[florida_lurker]

20. "They haven't won a division title since Stoops arrived."

They were the co-division champs just last year.

[fishwax]

21. lol -- that's true, I forgot

And welcome to DU, florida_lurker! :hi:

[enuegii]

4. Let's say that the SEC hooks up with A&M and Oklahoma...

How do they divvy up the conference? Geographically, it would make sense to bump both the Alabama teams to the East, with OU and A&M in the West. That would be kind of a sweet deal for OU-- there would be LSU and Arkansas to contend with, of course, but the East would be brutal, with Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia and Tennessee in the same division. I really don't think that will fly. If they go to 16 teams, though, by adding, say, Florida State and maybe Virginia Tech to the East and OK and A&M to the West-- well, that might be interesting.

[Condem]

8. Good to hear from you again, enuegii.

Supposedly the SEC prezzes are meeting today. More to come.

[SpiralHawk]

6. Left Behind

[a la izquierda]

9. Fucking stupid asshole Longhorns

They all should've gone to the Pac-12.

[Condem]

10. They can claim responsibility for the destruction of two conferences.

Who the fuck would want 'em?

[underpants]

11. This is alumni bravado - they can't compete with the SEC and they can NOT recruit with them

This is a huge mistake

[Condem]

12. Wow. The SEC blows off A&M.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6861385/sec-extend-invitation-texas-leaves-options-open The Aggies are now the laghingstock of college football. Thanks for trying, fellers. I guess that A&M Regents meeting set for tomorrow is cancelled.

[Condem]

13. After further review, looks like the Aggies have to quit the Big 12 first.

Then apply to the SEC.http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/31318268 The A&M Regents are still meeting tomorrow. This whole deal isn't done by a longshot. According to another CBS report, Oklahoma and three other Big 12 schools approached the Big Ten about a mass transfer a couple days ago. Because of the Big Ten's AAU status it was not OK. The bottom line is this. Texas has caused a major rift in the Big 12. It's more than obvious that more than a couple want out of the Longhorn shadow.

[El Supremo]

14. Why is your corncob in such a dither?

OU is a heavy favorite over UT this year.

[Condem]

15. I gotta hand it to the Horns, El.

Texas has reached the hatred level of the Canes circa '86. You got one thing going for you. Thirty years from now when we look back at the age of the super conference and how we got there, Texas will be the answer. Hook 'em, Horns!

[El Supremo]

16. And just how many violations do the Horns have?

Hell, they couldn't even keep Vince Young for his senior year.

So what if they want a network? It now looks like it may not not even get a carrier: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/08/13/3074250/talking-points-just-how-many-tvs.html

[Condem]

17. Has absolutely nothing to do with violations, El...

..though I highly doubt that ignorant hayseed you call a coach is clean. It's all about the greed. Televising HS games on the network was just one of the problems. A school has to be desperate to want to leave the Big 12 to go to the SEC where they will be lower tier. But can't blame A&M for giving it the ol' College Station try.

[El Supremo]

18. Nobody has ever said that A&M produces geniuses.

They keep on making stupid decisions. Let them rot in that outhouse they call Aggieland.

So what kind of locoweed did you score at the Iowa State Fair? You need to chill.

[trumad]

19. well i guess there is one thing to stop them....

The SEC.

[Condem]

22. Texas A&M Board of Regents gives Aggie President permission to explore options.

In no way is this deal done, yet. It's all being handled to avoid the lawsuits. And one more thing... don't fucking believe anything that ESPN puts out ther. http://outkickthecoverage.com/espns-issues-with-texas-am-illuminate-larger-problem.php

[SteveM]

23. Damn, the SEC would be in anti-trust violation, in another time & era.

[JonLP24]

36. The whole NCAA is

[madinmaryland]

24. Hey! Did you have a corndog at the Iowa State Fair??

[Condem]

25. I'm trying to get there Friday, mad, if work allows.

Damn, Mrs. Bachmann looked good. I never do corndogs. Pork chop on a stick for me and happyiowan! $4.50 Bud Lights. Ouch.

[madinmaryland]

26. You saw her there? We have the Renaissance Fair coming up soon

in our area. I gotta get some Steak on a Stick!!

[El Supremo]

27. They don't even call them by their right name.

Invented at the TEXAS State Fair in 1942.

[madinmaryland]

28. Nice post, Rick W. Perry.

[El Supremo]

29. You'd probably eat a tamale like this >>

Without removing the husk!

[madinmaryland]

30. How the hell can you even tell what he is eating? Looks like a triscuit to me.

[El Supremo]

31. Or a crumpet?

Anglophile.

[a la izquierda]

32. We call 'em krimpets in NJ.

Don't know if they're the same as the ones in Merry Ol' England, but the Tastycake ones are awesome.

[Condem]

33. New Jersey, ala? What exit?

I thought you were in Ohio.

[a la izquierda]

34. I am in Ohio.

I grew up in NJ (Exit 117), but I've lived all over (CA and OK).

[KamaAina]

35. Krimpets are nothing like crumpets

we got Tastykake in MD when I was growing up. There's even an ersatz Philly* cheesesteak place in San Jose that has them!

Crumpets are basically the original English muffins, with nooks and crannies and whatnot, only smaller than what we're used to.

[a la izquierda]

37. That's what I thought...

because I could not for the life of me remember what they called "English" muffins.
Both krimpets and crumpets are awesome, even though I can no longer enjoy their delicious goodness.

[caraher]

39. I once had an Englishman ask me to describe an "English muffin" to him

I didn't paint a very good verbal picture, so he ordered one just to find out. When it arrived, he said...

"Oh. It's just a muffin."

[Condem]

38. Looks like the Big East wants to take the bull by the balls.

From reports, phone calls got pretty heated between SEC commish Slive and Big 12 head Beebe. Hey, let's save some fucking time, gents. Get together and divide the whole deal up. That's where we're headed, anyway. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/08/16/big-east-big-12-acc-realignment.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a11&eref=sihp

[madinmaryland]

40. Huh? I thought this was a football thread.

:shrug:

[Condem]

41. No time to chat, mad.

It's Iowa night on the BTN! A replay of the Insight Bowl vs. Mizzou.

[madinmaryland]

42. You can't multi-task??

:wtf:

Though I guess one should expect that from the Iowa folks.

:hide:

[Condem]

43. Halftime. Of a game. That I know. How it turns out. That's okay.

I'm typing like Christopher Walken speaks. I'd like to razz the many Miami Hurricane folk, tonight. Damn. It's quite possible you get the dreaded SMU 'Death Penalty'. 26 Years later. That school still hasn't recovered. Best wishes, 'Cane fans.