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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:56 AM
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Baseball HOF's.....All of those who would today...
If these guys retired at the end of the year, would they be HOF's one day?

Barry Bonds
Tom Glavine
Greg Maddux
John Smoltz
Pedro Martinez
Sammy Sosa

Craig Biggio or Jeff Bagwell?


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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 04:30 AM
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1. 3 for Sure
Bonds, Maddux, and Sosa all have the numbers for the HOF, I am not sure about the rest of the guys. I would like to see Biggio just because he plays the game the right way. I think Glavine would have if he could have stayed in Atlanta, Pedro could but he needs to get the numbers and the same for Smoltz.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:23 AM
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2. Bonds, Martinez, Maddux, Sosa
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:19 AM
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3. Mike Piazza
Pujols, if he keeps it up a few more years, which I think he will.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:33 AM
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4. Griffey
has to be in that group. He did it without roids.
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dr.zoidberg Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:37 AM
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5. 2 of them are slam dunks.
Those 2 would be Bonds and Maddux. I can see Sosa as well. Everyone else, I'm not sure of.
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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:05 PM
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6. Bonds and Maddux
Are the sure things.... I say "possibly" for the rest but I can't honestly say for sure. I would say Smoltz's few seasons as a closer might of given him a better chance than before so we'll see.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 08:32 PM
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7. Smoltz but not Mariano Rivera?
Are you kidding?
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:29 AM
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8. Roger Clemens and Randy Johnson EOM
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:50 AM
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9. Palmeiro...OUT!
Baltimore Orioles first baseman Rafael Palmeiro will be suspended by Major League Baseball for violating the league's steroids policy, ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney has confirmed with a league source.


Palmeiro, who recently got his 3,000th career hit, was noted for his emotional denial of steroid use before a Congressional panel in March, would be the latest player suspended under the league's new drug policy.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:12 PM
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10. Bonds, Maddux, Martinez, Biggio, possibly Bagwell
The first four are no-brainers to me. Martinez might be the best pitcher of all time, and Bonds is among the top three hitters.
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Ron Mexico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 09:00 AM
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11. From that list, only Bonds and Maddux would get my vote. (n/t)
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 09:12 AM
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12. not Glavine?
I think he's a first ballot HOFer
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Ron Mexico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 09:45 AM
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13. You know, after Don Sutton got in
I started tightening my standards. The HoF should be for players who inspire awe, not pass milestones or have better-than-average careers.

I could ask every person in my office of 133 people to name any stat that comes to mind about Glavine, and not one would come up with a knowledgeable answer. Those that follow baseball would know, however, that Maddux won four Cy Youngs in a row (and IMO should have won it the year Pedro got it in Montreal). Maddux inspired amazement.

I freely admit, however, that in most sports matters I'm in the minority, and Glavine will get in on his first time, but with Sutton in and Blyleven out I have no tolerance for anyone but jaw-dropping players these days. Glavine just doesn't make my cut.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:24 PM
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14. Pudge
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