Two years OU makes it to BCS title game; & 2 years they didn't deserve to!

[joeybee12]

Geesh--if this ain't proof we need a play-off system, nothing is. They are roundly beaten by KS last year, and still make it in. USC was robbed last year.

This year, they are trounced by a better team, and about 6-7 teams out there would have given USC a better game. Hey, USC is obviously the best team this year--there should be absolutely no question in anyone's mind (even you Auburn fans) but OU was not the second best. And then the twits in the AP poll put OU ahead of Utah in their final poll.

Give me a fuckin' break.

The BCS, like our democracy, is broke!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. Yeah, you're right, however....

I also don't think anyone was going to actually beat USC, unless USC beat themselves.

[joeybee12]

3. No argument about that...but you can't even say OU is number three

now, which they are in the AP poll...I don't think they would have won their first game in a 8-team play-off.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

7. I agree completely.

Big XII has not been very good the last 2 years.

[joeybee12]

8. But they start out higher in the polls because of an ingrained bias by the

voters, so even if Auburn or Utah has a great year also, they can't catch up, because Oklahoma was higher to begin with.

No matter how much the BCS tinkers with its formula, there is so much human subjectivity that you really have to abandon it and go to a play-off system.

[Ganja Ninja]

2. Everybody that cares about college football wants a ...

playoff system. The only people preventing it are the colleges.

[joeybee12]

5. They make a lot of money off those bowl games...

...and I bet even schools like Auburn would object to aplay-off system, even though it might have given them a claim that they could have made it to the championship game.

[jakefrep]

9. Heaven forbid the colleges actually do their job and look after academics.

I care about college football, and I don't really want a playoff.

[joeybee12]

12. Every other college sport has a play-off system--it can easily be

done with football--just 8 teams. No way will this impair academics (any more than what has already been done anyway).

[RoyGBiv]

17. Playoff System

Up front, I'll say I'd like to see some sort of playoff system myself.

However, I think a lot of people who want this system are failing to consider a number of things, all of which amount to the likelihood that the controversies will not be diminished one whit. They will simply be directed at different levels.

What kind of playoff system? Assuming the popular eight team formula, who are those eight teams? Top 8? Okay, now we have a controversy between who should be #8 and who gets left out at #9. If you think that won't be a controversy, consider where Utah finished the regular season ... close to this cusp. Now, factor in major conferences compared to independents and so-called minor conferences. Do the conferences all get automatic bids or preference in #8 vs #9? You can say flat-out "no," that the final but that's *not* how those conferences or the colleges in them will see the question, and it will be a sticking point.

I could go on, but I'll leave it there. I don't know the answers myself, but I wanted to point out that the "natural" answer has potential problems as well.

[tx_dem41]

21. I don't see how a playoff system in the middle of finals....

wouldn't impair academics.

[HuckleB]

15. Exactly.

Who cares? What would everyone have to rant about if a playoff system came into play? People don't know what they'd miss out on until it's gone.

[tx_dem41]

20. My thoughts exactly! n/t

[tx_dem41]

19. Well, I care and love college football, but

I don't want a playoff system. Oh, and I'm not affiliated with a college (other than being a graduate of one).

[jarab]

4. SC was prepared for sure ...

But, I'm quite confident there is/was a team that could have played closer than 36 points. Lots of 'em. Like, maybe Utah or Louisville/Boise St??

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...O...

[joeybee12]

6. Didn't Notre Dame play them closer--only 34 points, and it was AT USC...

...and, believe it or not, for the most of the first half, ND led!

[ThorsHammer]

13. ND lost by 31 (3rd year in a row)

ND was doing a great job pounding them on the ground early, which Auburn could have done as well, but then tried to get cute, and also had Bush break a few Sportscenter runs. OU was an absolute embarassment yesterday.

[HuckleB]

16. Notre Dame was also pounded by a 6-5 Pac-10 team from Oregon St...

that USC could only muster an eight point win against

[ThorsHammer]

22. To clarify, I wasn't defending ND

ND was extremely inconsistent this year, and lacks the DBs to stop a good high school team. My comment that OU was an embarrasment is relative to their talent and expectations. Most people, myself included, expected a great game between 2 evenly matched teams. OU had a great offense, good defense, and a great coach. There's no nice way to put it, but getting thrashed like that is an embarassment.

[HuckleB]

23. Oh, I know that.

[goodbody]

10. Totally agreed joeybee12!!

Oklahoma was GIFTED their No. 1 position and title game by the BCS last year after they lost to KS last year. They didn't even win their division -- which is another way the BCS is ridiculous!! It's been such a complete bias towards Oklahoma, for What??

And why wouldn't they want a playoff? They get more games - more money that way! I haven't seen the final AP polls yet, but I am shocked that Oklahoma is not severely downrated.

USC was sooooo robbed last year.

[joeybee12]

11. Final poll gave Auburn one first-place vote, which isn't deserved if

you ask me--they wouldn not have beaten USC, although they have a case that they should have been given the opportunity to try to, over OU.

I have no problem with them being ranked #2 now--that's a given, but OU #3????? Over Utah, which looked pretty damn good in its win?

Like I said earlier, in an 8-team play-off, OU would not have won its first game this year!


Glad we agree!!!!!!!!!!!:)

[RoyGBiv]

18. I love these kinds of threads ...

Wouldn't have made it past the first team ...

All at once an insult to OU and USC. :-)

[ThorsHammer]

14. Well said, F the BCS

[joeybee12]

24. Thanks--you know, it wasn't this bad when just the AP Poll decided

the winner. It could also be that there's more parity in college ball these days, so more schools have a claim at the end of the season.