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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 03:07 PM
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NCAA Tournament Picks
We're just about a day away from selection Sunday, where the committee picks the so-called 65 best teams in the country to participate in next week's March Madness tournament.

There's still a considerable amount to be decided in the last two days of conference tournaments. There's a lot of debate about who should be the 4 #1 seeds. It appears like UCLA, North Carolina, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Florida, and Kansas are all in the running for the top seeds. A few weeks ago it looked like UCLA and Florida were secure in their top spots, but they have faltered down the stretch and that distinction is currently in jeopardy.

Nevertheless, UCLA likely maintains their #1 seed in the West. Despite bad losses on the road to Washington and Cal, they're helped by a high RPI, quality wins, and the fact that they're the only candidate from the West. If I were a team like Florida, I'd prefer to be #2 in the East than be shipped out to the West Coast.

Ohio State looks to be in good shape for a #1 in the Midwest. They secure that spot by winning against Purdue today and against Wisconsin/Illinois tomorrow. Despite the Big Ten being a bit down as a conference, 15-1 is still very impressive in league. They deserve credit for taking on quality non-conference foes, traveling to both North Carolina and Florida before conference play started. They did lose both games, but they've bounced back strong and their only losses are against Top 10 teams.

I still like Florida as a #1 if they can win their conference tournament. They don't have any real bad losses on their resume. While their play wasn't impressive against Vanderbilt and Tennessee, those were two very tough games for any team. Vandy was playing for an at-large bid, and it was Senior night in Knoxville. The Kansas loss early in the season was a hard-fought overtime contest in Las Vegas. I wouldn't hold that against Florida too much.

Kansas ends up likely taking the last #1 seed, if they can win against K-State and Texas. I give them the edge over UNC. Unfortunately for UNC's strength of schedule, they took a hit when the top-ranked teams fell in the ACC tournament. They should win the ACC easily, and will get the #1 if Kansas were to lose one of their last two games.

There are a few other teams claiming they should get a chance to be #1, most notably the winner of Pittsburgh/Louisville. I don't necessarily see that happening. The winner should be a #2 and the loser a #3.

The big debate now is who gets in from the last five or so at-large selections. The bubble isn't as big as it's been in previous years. I think most of the teams in are pretty safe. SI.com has six bubble spots listed, and I tend to agree with that. The A-10, Horizon, and WAC getting two bids will play a big role in narrowing the margin of error. Xavier, Butler, and Nevada are all locks to get an automatic bid. But now, the tourney winner will get a slot as well.

There's a big push for Drexel and Old Dominion to get at-large bids from the Colonial. As of now, both of them are probably in. We're left with teams like Kansas State, Florida State, Purdue, Arkansas, West Virginia, Air Force and Illinois hoping to get in. A lot of these decisions will depend on whether the selection committee wants to take an mediocre team from a major conference, or the 2nd or 3rd best team from a mid-major. The success of George Mason last year might lead to schools like FSU and West Virginia getting left out come Sunday.

The field will be a bit more concrete after some of the big games are played tonight. Because of time constraints, the results of tomorrow's games may have less of an impact than games played earlier. The committee goes to air at 6:00 ET, just as the Big 12 and Big 10 conclude their tournament. It might be enough to be in the tournament finals, and the result may not matter as much.
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rep the dems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 08:35 PM
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1. Well know that we know who the #1's are, my tentative Final Four picks are
Florida, Kansas, Georgetown, and Texas A&M with Florida beating Georgetown in the big dance. Though I am a Gators fan, so that's partly my bias.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 08:39 PM
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2. Akron deserved to receive an at-large bid, but got shafted.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 08:44 PM
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3. Duke boy Bilas needs to just shut up
"Illinois shouldn't be in there" Friggin' ACC Duke boy. Man I'm tired of the Big Ten(11) getting ripped by these ACC people. Why not boot Texas Tech in favor of Drexel instead? Because they are all scared of Knight? Go Big Ten(11)!
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 03:10 AM
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5. Go big 11!
After looking at the draw, I'm kind of glad my Buckeyes went as the 3rd 1 seed.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:58 PM
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10. Illinois deserved the nod
But I'm a little surprised that the Big 10 got six seeds. I figured that either Illinois or Purdue would get left out.

ESPN was unfairly hard on Xavier and Illinois, IMO. They weren't even talking about them being a bubble team, but when they were picked ahead of other teams they got pretty riled up. As a #9, Xavier was pretty safe. I pretty much considered them a lock.
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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:42 PM
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4. If VCU can somehow find it in them . . .
To take Duke out first round, I'll be a happy happy VCU Drop out. ;)

With that being said my team as usual is Kentucky... but.. yah . . . this won't be pretty.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:37 AM
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6. Really out on a limb
My numerical system says North Carolina, then Florida. But subjectively I expect Florida to repeat.

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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 12:53 PM
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7. Oregon - legit Final Four dark horse.
Yeah, I'm biased, but they completely dominated the Pac-10 tournament, beating 8 seed Arizona by 19 and 5 seed USC by 24 (in a game that had them holding a 39-point lead before the scrubs got put in with 7 minutes to go).

Just sayin'--jump on the bandwagon now. Some seats still available.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:43 PM
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8. I'm riding Georgetown
Size, quickness, experience and did I mention size? They took Florida to the wall last year, recall. It takes a hot outside shooting team to take them down (which could happen, it is March, after all)
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:55 PM
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9. My takes
Florida appears to be a consensus to reach the Final Four out of the Midwest Region. I'm a bit confused why, as the overall #1 (which I disagree with), they're not playing in the South. Logically, I'd expect Ohio State to be bracketed in the Midwest. As a Florida fan, I'm happy to see that Georgetown is not in our region. They were the only team to truly challenge the Gators during last year's run.

The rest of the #1 seeds appear to be correct. My biggest question would have been if Wisconsin had beaten Ohio State. Considering the late start time of the Big 10 Final, would they have given both of them #1 seeds?

I'm surprised Syracuse didn't get in. From watching hours of ESPN coverage, they weren't considered a bubble team. On my projections, I had them as a Lock.

I don't have much of a problem with the rest of the field. I might have picked Kansas State over Arkansas. Despite the fact that K-State played a weak schedule, 10 wins in a power conference is typically enough to earn an at-large. They're the only team that can I can really say got shafted.

I guess I consider conference play to be the most important element in selecting at-large bids. I have a hard time feeling bad for .500 teams like FSU getting left out, or the 4th place team in the Colonial (Drexel) not making it. I understand that Drexel had three great road wins and 13 true road wins. However, they were not that solid in conference, and lost to marginal teams like Rider and William & Mary. I don't understand the outrage, considering the fact that they lost twice to Old Dominion.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:43 PM
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11. Syracuse....
oh wait....How the FUCK does that team not make it?!?!?!?!? :mad:


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