MICHIGAN WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[1gobluedem]

Thank you, Lloyd Carr! I am SO happy to see you go out a winner! Great guy, good Democrat, great coach. We will miss you.

Four turnovers against the Heisman winner AND a team from the SEC, a conference that, some say, the Big Ten can't win against. Guess what. We can. And we did.

That offensive show today just shows what Michigan could've done if we'd been healthy this year.

Yay! Go Blue!

[madinmaryland]

1. ANOTHER BIG TEN VICTORY!!1!!

:woohoo:

[TZ]

2. Hey Benedict Arnold....

Aren't you supposed to always root agaisnt Michigan, my fellow Ohio State fan?
Oh wait, we are talking about the same person who roots for the Cowboys while living less than an hour from where the Skins play....
:P
(BTW- I want some credit for my preseason pick of the Skins being 10-6 in the playoffs..pretty close to reality)

[madinmaryland]

11. Only because there are a lot of SEC apologists here!

BTW, I'm only 35 minutes from where the skins play.

I still like the sound of 13-3 and HOMEFIELD ADVANTAGE THROUGHOUT the playoffs!!1!!

:woohoo:

[joeybee12]

3. Yeah, that SEC is powerful, ain't it?? Congrats! Love seeing FL lose!

What, do they have about 49 losses and they still went in at #9???

[Elwood P Dowd]

6. The SEC is 5-2 in bowls while the Big 10 is 3-4. (nm)

:eyes:

[trumad]

9. LOL

Let's see OU against LSU before you start pounding your chest/

[Brotherjohn]

10. SEC 6-2, Big Ten 3-4. Head-to-head 1-1, both close games.

SEC's bowl results are better (soon to be 7-2, I hope... Geaux Tigers!); but the two close head-to-head games tell me the BCS Championship game is going to be a good one.

[fishnfla]

4. This Badger fan sez

what to go blue. I am happy for y'all

[1gobluedem]

7. I was rooting for the Badgers...

SO close. :cry:

[fishnfla]

8. I meant to say "way to go blue!"

and I mean it. I pull for all Big Ten teams in the bowls. I was glad to see Michigan pull their season together after a bad start. Shows alot of guts and pride. Finest kind

Illinois laid an egg today, yuck.

We had our chances against TN, it was a weird game.

[trotsky]

5. Amazing game!

Michigan absolutely gave it their all, and came away with a great win. Congrats to U of Mich, its players, fans, and of course Coach Carr.

Glad to see ANYONE stick it to the Gators.

[LisaM]

12. Fantastic!

Of course I bleed maize and blue, but even if I didn't, if I heard, "Tim Tebow, Tim Tebow" one more time, I was going to blow!

Go Blue!

[BOSSHOG]

13. Happy New Year Lisa

It was nice to see Lloyd Carr go out on top. As an avid SEC puke I'm tired of hearing of tim tebow as well.

[trotsky]

14. Seeing Tebow get his face shoved in the dirt...

REPEATEDLY...

was a true highlight of that game.

[LisaM]

15. Happy New Year to you, too!

It was nice to see Lloyd go out a winner. I guess at halftime he was giving a speech with all the reasons for winning, and his assistant Ron English cut him off and yelled, "Bleep that! We're winning for Coach Carr!"

[Awsi Dooger]

16. That was hardly an upset

Michigan was superior to Florida this season. Only irrelevant crappiola called regular season results suggested otherwise. But give me preseason ratings every time. They invariably trump subjective garbage in bowl games.

It still cracks me up when posters on one board after another insist on denouncing preseason ratings. Those ratings just paid for another vacation for me. And then some. The higher rated underdog system from The Sporting News preseason magazine went 7-1 ATS. Michigan was #3 to #5 for the gallant Gators. I know I mentioned that angle in some recent thread on this forum, including the specific games. I've posted about it for years. It's my own homemade angle, discovered about a decade ago.

Only ATS loser was Wisconsin, by a point and a half. Outright so-called upsets on Auburn, Michigan and tonight on West Virginia. UCLA blew an outright upset at +7 by missing a chippie FG as time expired, and I'm very confident FSU with a reasonable roster would have dismissed Kentucky.

Do you realize how unlikely/damn near impossible it is to isolate 8 games, win 7 of the bets and lose the other by 1.5 points? No way I could do that subjectively. It shouts at the power of preseason ratings. Everything tends to drift back to the beginning. You can't win by simpleton subjective reliance on recency. The damn oddsmaker knows all about recency. If you know the same thing he knows, you know nothing, to borrow a '60s TV term.

Seriously, how was West Virginia over Oklahoma ever considered an upset? I can understand the lunacy that made Florida a double digit chalk over an underachieving then injured Michigan team, but at what point in the season was Oklahoma EVER superior to West Virginia? That one will baffle me for years. I'm amazed they were favored at all, let alone more than a TD.

The Sporting News preseason numbers had West Virginia #4 and Oklahoma #13.

Oklahoma's defense is always overstated. That's the bottom line. They never have stats of a top defense, particularly in pass defense, or even subjectively look like a staunch D.

USC was TSN #1. Michigan was #3. West Virginia was #4. Detect a trend? All dominated their bowls and exceeded expectations by big margin.

LSU was #2. That makes me more than a bit concerned about my +6.5 on preseason #17 Ohio State. But the YPPA Differential numbers favor the Buckeyes. For some reason the preseason numbers are not as automatically decisive ATS when the higher rated team is the favorite.

[trumad]

17. Kind of like the Horses

An allowance Horse may have lost his last 5 races by 15 lengths each and then gets dropped to a 10,000 dollar claiming race and runs away easily with the race. Too much class for the bottom feeders.