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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:21 AM
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Book proposal implicates McGwire (SHAMEFUL)


A new book proposal, submitted by the admittedly estranged brother of Mark McGwire, claims the former major league slugger used both steroids and human growth hormone during his career.

In the proposal, first reported Wednesday on Deadspin.com, Jay McGwire alleges that Mark used Deca-Durabolin and that he introduced Mark to performance-enhancing drugs in 1994.

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Deca-Durabolin helped with his joint problems and recovery, while growth hormone helped his strength, making him leaner in the process. I became the first person to inject him, like most first-timers he couldn't plunge in the needle himself. Later a girlfriend injected him.
” -- Jay McGwire, talking about his brother Mark in reported book proposal

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Jay McGwire writes in his proposal that his brother "began to use, but in low dosages so he wouldn't lift his way out of baseball. Deca-Durabolin helped with his joint problems and recovery, while growth hormone helped his strength, making him leaner in the process. I became the first person to inject him, like most first-timers he couldn't plunge in the needle himself. Later a girlfriend injected him."

Jose Canseco, in a book he wrote in 2005, claims he and McGwire, former Oakland A's teammates, used performance-enhancing drugs as far back as 1988. Jay McGwire disputes that in the book proposal.

The McGwire brothers reportedly haven't spoken to each other for years.

The book, "The McGwire Family Secret: The Truth about Steroids, a Slugger and Ultimate Redemption," is reportedly being sent by Jay McGwire to several publishing houses in New York. Deadspin.com said that it has been turned down by "many" publishers.

Jay McGwire is a bodybuilder. He writes in the proposal that he took his brother to his supplier and trainer after a 1994 bodybuilding championship, which Jay won. He says McGwire started using performance-enhancing substances then.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3851381&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines


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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 06:47 AM
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1. What part is shameful--- the half bro or the cheater?
Or then again, both?
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 06:58 AM
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2. Both. But the brother is truly despicable.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 08:07 AM
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3. And why is Mark shameful?
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 08:13 AM
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4. I didn't like his behavior in front of congress.
I was ready to believe him, but he's unbelievable.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:01 AM
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5. At least Barry Bonds had enough sense to not go in front of Congress,
unlike Palmeira and McGuire.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:50 AM
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9. Well--- give them credit for not lying in front of a Grand Jury...
Let's see---lie in front of a toothless congress---or lie in front of a Grand Jury?
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:16 AM
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12. Congress issued subpoenas to McGwire and Palmeiro, but not Bonds
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:49 AM
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8. "he's unbelievable".
Seriously one of the richest comments you've ever made.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:52 AM
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:04 AM
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6. Yes, steroid use is shameful. n/t
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:39 AM
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7. As if there were any question
Congressperson: Did you use steroids when you were playing baseball?

McGwire: I'm not here to talk about the past.


It's really hard to see that as anything but a "yes."
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 10:56 AM
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11. This book is practically covered with the liquid essence of smarm.
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 10:57 AM by nickgutierrez
I'm with the consensus here, that he in all probability used some sort of illegal performance enhancer. But for his estranged brother to be the one to try to bring this case forward is an act slimier than the stuff on Mitt Romney's head.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 10:42 AM
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13. That's what I think...and while I'm not defending Mark, I think the
source is very suspect...all this shit about living in the light smacks of a converted nutjob liar.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 03:06 PM
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14. Shameful? I dunno. If someone waved $75 million in my face
I'd be asking in which ass cheek do I stick the needle. Especially considering MLB didn't start drug testing until what, 2003?

He also openly admitted already to using andro (before it was also banned) so I'm not really surprised.

I'd say the same thing about Bonds, Canseco, any of them. I doubt that anyone here would turn it down, either.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 08:05 AM
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18. I'm just saying the concept of ratting out a sibling for any
amount of money doesn't register in my world.

Not to mention with the Italian relatives I have, that money could very easily be dried up on, um, health care costs. :scared:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:26 PM
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21. Oh, I get you now.
Agreed, ratting out a sibling is shameful.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 08:19 AM
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19. It wasn't about the money for these guys...
They were good enough to get that kind of money before the steroids....

It was about the stats--- they wanted to be top dog so they cheated their way to the top.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 03:55 PM
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15. Nothing like a few 'roids to create this...
Edited on Sat Jan-24-09 03:56 PM by madinmaryland


A supposedly self protrait by a DU'er.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 04:09 PM
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16. Nice post, Victor Conte.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 04:39 PM
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17. He posts here??
:hide:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 10:44 AM
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20. I'm pretty sure not everyone who looks like that takes
roids.

It's called metabolism, cardio, weight training, and in particular, an strict fat-free diet.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:40 PM
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23. And you know this how?
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 08:48 AM
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22. The good news is there seems to be no takers for a book deal...
....YET.
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