OK. Post names of baseball players that you think are/were on steroids.

[MikeG]

Here's mine:

Barry Bonds
Mark McGuire
Gary Shefield
Roger Clemens
Jason Giambi
Jeff Bagwell

[XNASA]

1. Sammy Sosa

[XNASA]

2. Ken Caminiti

Drove him bonkers and eventually killed him.

[Emboldened Chimp]

3. David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez

[MikeG]

7. Both Red Sox. Any others?

[Emboldened Chimp]

18. Nope

[ohkay]

41. Yankee's fan?

[meegbear]

4. Here's my list

All of them

[expatriot]

5. Ryne Sandburg -- dirtiest damned Cubbie ever

I don't know, he's the only baseball player I know the name of.

[XNASA]

6. Raphiel Palmiero

[MikeG]

10. Be careful, Angelos might sue.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

8. No Pirates could be because they suck!

Maybe the Pirates should shoot up to be competitive.

[MikeG]

9. I can think of a few former players.

Brian Giles
Aramis Ramirez

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

14. Bonds used to be a Pirate loooonnnnnngggg ago too. nt

[Jack Rabbit]

33. That was before the Pirates sucked

At the time Bonds played for the Pirates, the Giants sucked.

[postulater]

11. Babe Ruth! Had to be!

Nobody can hit that many home runs without a little help from his friends.

[MikeG]

12. Shoo!!

[MrSlayer]

13. Lenny Dykstra

No doubt he was juicing.

[joeybee12]

15. Don't think Clemens was. He's always been a big boy, and I see absolutely

no change in his appearance since he started with the Red Sox way back when!

[bigwillq]

16. I agree, not Clemens plus

Roger has a very sound physical work out routine. I think he just works very hard and that he's in very good shape.

[MikeG]

17. He gained 4 mph on his fastball in one offseason several yrs. ago.

[joeybee12]

19. Link please!

Not sure that's so out of the ordinary. besides, he was so damn big to begin with he'd be monstrous by now! With McGwire, Bonds and a few others, you can see how damn big they got.

[MikeG]

20. Heard it on the Dan Patrick show on Monday.

[tx_dem41]

21. Oh, the Dan Patrick show! Then it must be true!

Just like Rush is always right, the callers and host of the Dan Patrick show are always right. My bad.

[MikeG]

22. It was a scout. Can't remember his name.

[joeybee12]

23. And the guy never would have been on the show if not for Canseco's book!

That's what really bothers me about Jose--he talks about people he supposedly did steroids with, which, I suppose is fair game, but he makes a fleeting comment about Roger in his book, noting that he has no knowledge Roger ever did steroids, or even heard any rumors, BUT, he sayd Roger "looks" like he did.

What fucking shit.

[MikeG]

24. And Roger never shows any sign of "Roid Rage" either.

He's just a natural prick.

[joeybee12]

28. That's the ONE thing I'll agree with you about....he's always been a

hothead...no way did steroids cause that.

[tx_dem41]

30. He was a prick at UT. n/t

[bigwillq]

25. And that proves what?

It's possible for that to happen.

[MikeG]

26. That's a bigger increase than you think.

Especially when he was losing speed because of age.

I don't believe his BS story about working that hard.

[bigwillq]

27. I believe him

They should him on ESPN one day, I think his trainer was on, I also erad some stuff on it in various mags. Maybe it was for publicity sake but I still think Roger works really hard.

[HuckleB]

29. (Another Q) Will a significant number of players look smaller this season?

"Will a significant number of players look smaller this season after baseball adjusted its penalties for ster oids violations?

Actually, a lot of players looked smaller last year, even with al most no threat of serious punish ment for testing positive for drugs. Although home runs were up overall in baseball, nobody hit 50 home runs, a figure that hasn't been reached since Alex Rodri guez hit 57 in 2002 and a number we may not see for a while unless clubs continue to build hitter- friendly parks such as the one in Philadelphia."

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/64520F911CA099D886256FA80026D2AA?OpenDocument&Headline=10+questions+for+Major+League+Baseball


This hit me as interesting, since this came up in conversation throughout last year, in almost every ballpark I went to. A lot of fans noticed that the players looked smaller, in general, last year, after they knew the crap was flying about sterioids.

[joeybee12]

31. Hell, Barry Bonds didn't look smaller! And didn't he set the record in

2003? I'm questioning the part where they say A-Rod was the last to hit over 50 in 2002.

[HuckleB]

Bonds' broke the record in 2001.

And, you're right, Bonds didn't look smaller overall, last year. But he didn't look smaller (or bigger) in the right ways, either, if you get my drift. I suspect his biceps were a bit smaller last year. As for the rest of him...

:toast:

Oops. Maybe Barry's been doing that a bit too much.

[joeybee12]

40. Good Lord! Has it been that long?

This Red Sox fan is blocking out all of 2003 anyway.

I think I get your drift about Bonds...gotta do something in the offseason!

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[Jack Rabbit]

35. I think Grovelbot is on roids!!

[DaveinMD]

34. half the league

too many to mention.

[pres2032]

36. i don't see any current marlins taking them

we're the good guys of baseball.

[Jack Rabbit]

37. Good guys finish last

!!

[pres2032]

38. we didn't in 2003

we actually haven't finished last since 1998. With Carlos Delgado, we have a serious shot of making the playoffs where we're undefeated.

[DaveinMD]

39. your first world champion team

was full of them.