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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 12:51 PM
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Defense objects to evidence that Bonds’ testicles shrunk
It appears certain members of the sports forum have signed on with the prosecution over their fascination with Barry's manhood. :eyes:





By Jonathan Littman, Yahoo! Sports 13 hours, 3 minutes ago

SAN FRANCISCO – Courtroom 10 in the federal courthouse should be free of crude discussion of Barry Bonds’ allegedly shriveled testicles, supposed premature baldness and rumored massive head – at least that was the spirited argument Wednesday in a defense filing in the perjury case.

The motion by Bonds’ attorneys addressed scientific and lay testimony proposed by the prosecution that the defense believes Judge Susan Illston should prohibit in her “gatekeeping role.”

Attorneys for the former slugger charged that one of the government’s expert witnesses on steroids, Larry Bowers, while the senior managing director of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency and an accomplished chemist, “is not even a medical doctor” and “does not claim to have treated, let alone examined a single individual who was known or suspected of using steroids or HGH.”

The defense derided the science and studies that Bowers and the government cited that allege steroid and human growth hormone use by Bonds would have been witnessed by a former girlfriend, teammates and others in the form of physical symptoms: shrunken testicles, male pattern baldness, and a giant skull and fingers.

“The Court must be especially vigilant to ensure that misleading and prejudicial testimony is not presented,” wrote lawyer Allen Ruby, who added that the suggestion that Bonds exhibited symptoms of “roid rage” could create “the potential of a sideshow of criticism from biased witnesses concerning Mr. Bonds’ personality.”

As to allegations about Bonds’ testicles, the defense claimed a failure of proof. Alleging that Bonds’ former mistress Kimberly Bell had pressed a legal claim against the slugger and shopped a book about their relationship, Ruby noted that no medical evidence had been introduced to support her claim to “have noticed that Mr. Bonds’ testicles became smaller.”

Visual inspection apparently won’t do. Ruby noted that a “layperson” would have difficulty detecting diminished testicles “even by touch.”

The only reliable means of measurement, Ruby wrote, is by a “trained examiner” using a special device called an orchidometer.

Whether Bonds’ testicles, lack of hair, cranium size or mood swings become the subject of expert or lay testimony at trial rests with Illston, who is expected to rule on admissible evidence any day.


NOW I'VE HEARD EVERYTHING
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:51 PM
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1. "I'd give my left nut for a home run crown"
and the Lord sayeth, barry I'll need both of them for that feat.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 02:02 PM
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2. OK, that was very clever .. unless you stole the line
from someone. :thumbsup:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 03:30 PM
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3. No Cboy I did not steal it
I have and could again make a living as a writer. Your reply reminds me of one of the great movie lines of all time.

"I don't know what scruples are but I know if you got em you stole em from someone else." Addie Pray talking to her Daddy in Paper Moon.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 04:11 PM
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4. Thats actual legitimate science/biology with steroid users
but I'm thinking you wouldn't actually know anything about that, being about as logical/scientific as a swamp rat.
And gee I'm a biologist so I CERTAINLY wouldn't know anything either.:sarcasm:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 04:55 PM
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5. It'll never hold up in court
:evilgrin:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 07:52 PM
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7. I 'got' it. nt
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 05:22 PM
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6. I was reading about this the other day
sounds to me as if the persecution, er, prosecution is getting desperate. If the judge refuses to allow those so called "positive" tests, then they have to rely on all sorts of nonsense to make their case.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 08:19 PM
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8. Yes just like that unreliable DNA testing
the physiological effects of steroid abuse is little known or studied..:sarcasm:
Read THIS:
http://www.medicinenet.com/anabolic_steroid_abuse/page4.htm
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 11:06 AM
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9. This article is hilarious.
Never, in my life, did I think I'd read an article in the sports forum about small nuts, bald dude and giant heads.:rofl: If there's a jury trial, how anyone keeps a straight face is beyond me. Maybe I'm immature, but I'd laugh my ass off the whole time. Just thinking about it and I have tears rolling down my face.

Shrunken testicles and giant heads....it's like bizarro world.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 11:59 AM
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10. And here I've been using my orchidometer
to measure my orchids, no wonder they aren't getting very big.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-06-09 09:57 PM
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11. Saaay Whaaat?
:wtf:

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 06:14 AM
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12. Who in this thread likes cock?
Who in this thread would have a fascination with men's bodies? Sounds like classic projection from the OP.

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