This is HUGH! Manny suspended 50 games for peds!

[joeybee12]

There are about 4 posts elsewhere on DU!!!!!

[El Supremo]

1. Maybe the Rockies will have a chance now. n/m

[hughee99]

2. At least while he's sitting out, he won't have to worry about

which leg to limp on.

[nickgutierrez]

3. From what I'm reading: not a steroid, but definitely a performance enhancer.

Could be something like an ADD medication, maybe? If he doesn't have a theraputic use exemption, that could trigger a positive test. Pure speculation on my part, based on nothing.

[TZ]

4. I'm wondering if it was something taken accidently...

Manny's not THAT stupid is he? Oh wait..This is Manny being Manny...:eyes:

[nickgutierrez]

5. It's possible - he's probably the league's biggest goofball.

Here's what I read:

Ramirez, a baseball source told SI.com, explained to baseball officials he was uncertain he was taking a banned substance and may have had a medical reason for using the substance. The source said the substance was not classified as a steroid but was clearly defined as a banned performance enhancer according to the drug agreement between baseball and its players association. Banned substances can only be taken with prior knowledge and medical clearance from baseball's drug-program administrators. Such exceptions are known as Therapeutic Use Exemptions, or TUEs. The suspension is an indication Ramirez did not have a TUE for the substance.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/05/07/manny/index.html?cnn=yes

[joeybee12]

7. MLB has an 800 number for players to call and see what's legit...

...they're making it pretty damn easy to NOT make this kind of mistake...either either Manny's a cheater, or an even bigger p**ck than I thought.

[TZ]

9. Well

Thats entirely possible..But given what I know about him, I could see being too lazy and stupid to check as a possibility as well. But yeah, he's definitely a jackass.

[joeybee12]

10. Yeah, two choices, a cheat or a huge jerk....

...I am sooooooooooooooooo glad he's far, far away from America's Team!

[TZ]

11. I have to give the idiot one thing though

He is NOT going to appeal the suspension...:wow:

[joeybee12]

12. Hmmm...what does that mean....

....does it mean that his "personal medical issue" he was being seen for is embarassing, or that the name of the ped will come out and his excuse/cover will be blown?

[Auggie]

13. I'd like add "or bonehead" to that list

[joeybee12]

15. So, the options are a) a cheat; b) a big jerk, c) a bonehead and...

d) all of the above.

[Onceuponalife]

41. The Dallas Cowboys??

[flvegan]

17. One "source" is saying it's a "sexual performance enhancer"

Not like Viagra, but something that helps with the mental part of arousal or something like that.

[nickgutierrez]

19. Will Carroll is citing a T.J. Quinn report, claiming that it's "Human chorionic gonadotropin"

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=1256

It appears to be a hormone that is sometimes prescribed to boost testosterone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chorionic_gonadotropin

[TZ]

20. Thats a performance enhancer? OMFG!

I know of it...Its the hormone that pregnancy tests check for..in other words..a postitive test USUALLY indicates likely pregnancy...OOOH I could make soooo many comments about this but I won't...:rofl:

[nickgutierrez]

21. Yeah, I noticed that when I read through the wikipedia page.

It's too funny, on so many levels.

I think the "serious" speculation now becomes that this was the substance he was taking to restart his natural testosterone production process after a period of using anabolic steroids.

Either that, or Manny is having a baby. :rofl:

[flvegan]

24. Or...trying to mask a potential low epitestosterone level.

[TZ]

25. so in other words....

its likely he was taking this hormone to cover up use of other hormones...Nice.....

[flvegan]

26. One way or another, yes it's likely.

If it was indeed hCG.

[TZ]

27. btw I was reading another sports board and someone had a good line

"Manny being Mommy"...:rofl:

[joeybee12]

28. Whoo-hoo!

:D

[joeybee12]

29. The timeline fits...doing anabolic steroids right after the season ended,

taking hCG in january, assuming everything would be back to normal by spring training WHICH, I MIGHT ADD, he joined late because he held out on his contract. Hmmmmmmmmmm.

[MaineDem]

34. Ahhhh, good points. n/t

[flvegan]

38. Could certainly be that

depending on when the test was taken. It takes 30 days to flush the body of hCG.

HOWever, IF he was using it to mask a low epitestosterone level in ratio to his testosterone level, then he's using anabolics right now but they didn't find it in the test.

I tend to agree with your timeline as the likely events.

[flvegan]

22. Actually, bodybuilders use hCG AFTER a cycle of steroids to put

the body back on track producing its own proper amount of steroids.

If this is true, there's potentially a LOT more to this story.

[joeybee12]

23. Manny's "story" has Scott Boras written all over it...a "personal medical reason"

...great way to try and make it seem innocent...and remember, Boras sat A-Fraud down and told him to "come clean" and we now know that he didn't come close to coming clean.

[madinmaryland]

30. Manny is pregnant??

:wtf:

Does 50 games equate to human gestation??

:rofl:

[Forkboy]

39. Tell him to use Playboy like the rest of us.

:hide:

[charlie and algernon]

6. thanks, manny, for shooting my fantasy team in the knee cap

:eyes:

[Kingofalldems]

8. Dodgers should forfeit all games up to now

13 game win streak will have an asterisk.

[Tektonik]

40. I love threads like this

All the 'tards climb out of their holes.

:crazy:

[flvegan]

14. Manny, Manny, Manny

Just tell everyone it was Modafinil for a sleep disorder and everyone will love you again.

Well, I won't but some will.

[jakefrep]

16. Suspended 50 games for having feet?

Damn, that's harsh.

[Ganja Ninja]

18. Well that will probably kill the Dodgers hopes this season. n/t

[madinmaryland]

31. It's been four hours since this came out, and no sign of cboy and upton?

:wtf:

[nickgutierrez]

32. Now that you mention it, the discussion has been pretty substantive.

Not a hint of a flame war to be found. I can get used to this.

[TZ]

33. Wait till later this evening.

Or late tonight. I can predict where this will go..We are being much NICER to Manny than we are to Bonds...:eyes:

[nickgutierrez]

35. Mentally bookmarked.

I bet you're right, and I just want to have proof of this before they go on their entirely predictable rampage.

[madinmaryland]

36. It should be interesting.

Where are they?

[cboy4]

37. That's all I would have needed for him to have joined the

Giants. :crazy:

[Captain Hilts]

42. Well a guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do when his testicles are shrinking. nt