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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 02:03 PM
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Missing the Mark
(I am not a writer - far from it - but found this essay interesting and decided to share)


OCTOBER 25, 2008

Missing the Mark
Quotation marks have fallen out of favor, and that's bad for books
By LIONEL SHRIVER
The Wall St. Journal

Literature is not very popular these days, to put it mildly. According to the National Endowment for the Arts, nearly half of Americans do not read books at all, and those who do average a mere six a year. You'd think literary writers would be bending over backwards to ingratiate themselves to readers -- to make their work maximally accessible, straightforward and inviting. But no. Perhaps no single emblem better epitomizes the perversity of my colleagues than the lowly quotation mark. Some rogue must have issued a memo, "Psst! Cool writers don't use quotes in dialogue anymore" to authors as disparate as Junot Díaz, James Frey, Evan S. Connell, J.M. Coetzee, Ward Just, Kent Haruf, Nadine Gordimer, José Saramago, Dale Peck, James Salter, Louis Begley and William Vollmann. To the degree that this device contributes to the broader popular perception that "literature" is pretentious, faddish, vague, eventless, effortful, and suffocatingly interior, quotation marks may not be quite as tiny as they appear on the page.

By putting the onus on the reader to determine which lines are spoken and which not, the quoteless fad feeds the widespread conviction that popular fiction is fun while literature is arduous. Surely what should distinguish literature isn't that it's hard but that it's good. The text should be as easy to process as possible, saving the readers' effort for exercising imagination and keeping track of the plot.

(snip)

Proponents of quotelessness argue that the practice pays aesthetic dividends. Eschewing quotes herself, British novelist Julie Myerson fancies "the cleanness of these letters and words without any little black marks flying around above them." Book critic John Freeman believes no-quote dialogue "lends everyday speech a formal elegance." But, is the style always elegant? From Susan Minot's 1998 novel "Evening":

...But you see I've just been at dinner -- he glanced over his shoulder, then lurched forward -- in Boston with my great old friends -- the Beegins -- and I've only just heard of your mother's -- he pressed his chin into his chest -- misfortune and wanted to pay my respects.

All those dashes simply replace one form of clutter with another. Kate Grenville and Jonathan Safran Foer have sometimes opted for italics. (In "Child 44," Tom Rob Smith distinguishes dialogue with both dashes and italics, in a disconcerting overkill of alternative-ness.) The italics convention lends dialogue a curiously forceful, emphatic sensation while still keeping speech pent-up, inside, barely audible.

For that is the overwhelming effect of the no-quote style: quietness. Novelist Laura Lippman, who still uses quotes, complains, "I can't help feeling everyone is muttering." Fair enough, when lines are murmured, the emotions expressed soft. But lines like these from Susanna Moore's "The Big Girls" (2007) look peculiar:

Just what is it that you're not getting? he shouted. Your son has been molested.

(or)

Is this what you're like with LizAnn? I heard myself scream.

We don't hear any shouting; no one screams. Reading heated dialogue without quotes is like watching chase scenes in "The Bourne Supremacy" with the sound off.

(snip)

Surely most readers would happily forgo "elegance" for demarcation that makes it easier to figure out who's saying what when their eyelids are drooping during the last few pages before lights-out. The appearance of authorial self-involvement in much modern literary fiction puts off what might otherwise comprise a larger audience. By stifling the action of speech, by burying characters' verbal conflicts within a blurred, all-encompassing über-voice, the author does not seem to believe in action -- and many readers are already frustrated with literary fiction's paucity of plot. When dialogue makes no sound, the only character who really gets to talk is the writer.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122489468502968839.html (subscription, I think)
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 07:33 PM
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1. Thanks for posting that. Just the
other day I was remembering some "literary" short stories I'd read in which the dialogue wasn't enclosed in quotation marks, and I wondered why it wasn't, and also why I'd thought the dialogue without quotation marks was so effective.

I always use quotation marks when writing dialogue. Guess I'm not very mavricky.

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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:14 PM
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2. Cormac McCarthy--one of my favorites--doesn't use quotation marks
Not very fond of apostrophes sometimes, either. Frankly, I do find it pretentious, even though I've gotten the hang of McCarthy's style enough that I don't have trouble figuring out what's dialogue and what's not. He's been writing that way for decades, so he's gotten very good at it.

However, as a trend it really does seem calculated to make writing less accessible and therefore more snobbish.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 12:20 AM
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3. A Reader's Manifesto
by B. R. Myers


Nothing gives me the feeling of having been born several decades too
late quite like the modern "literary" best seller. Give me a time-tested
masterpiece or what critics patronizingly call a fun read—Sister Carrie
or just plain Carrie. Give me anything, in fact, as long as it doesn't
have a recent prize jury's seal of approval on the front and a clutch of
precious raves on the back. In the bookstore I'll sometimes sample what
all the fuss is about, but one glance at the affected prose—"furious dabs
of tulips stuttering," say, or "in the dark before the day yet was"—and
I'm hightailing it to the friendly black spines of the Penguin Classics.

I realize that such a declaration must sound perversely ungrateful to the
literary establishment. For years now editors, critics, and prize jurors,
not to mention novelists themselves, have been telling the rest of us how
lucky we are to be alive and reading in these exciting times. The absence
of a dominant school of criticism, we are told, has given rise to an
extraordinary variety of styles, a smorgasbord with something for every
palate. As the novelist and critic David Lodge has remarked, in summing
up a lecture about the coexistence of fabulation, minimalism, and other
movements, "Everything is in and nothing is out." Coming from insiders
to whom a term like "fabulation" actually means something, this hyperbole
is excusable, even endearing; it's as if a team of hotel chefs were
getting excited about their assortment of cabbages. From a reader's
standpoint, however, "variety" is the last word that comes to mind,
and more appears to be "out" than ever before. More than half a century
ago popular storytellers like Christopher Isherwood and Somerset Maugham
were ranked among the finest novelists of their time, and were considered
no less literary, in their own way, than Virginia Woolf and James Joyce.
Today any accessible, fast-moving story written in unaffected prose is
deemed to be "genre fiction"—at best an excellent "read" or a "page
turner," but never literature with a capital L. An author with a track
record of blockbusters may find the publication of a new work treated
like a pop-culture event, but most "genre" novels are lucky to get an
inch in the back pages of The New York Times Book Review.

Everything written in self-conscious, writerly prose, on the other hand,
is now considered to be "literary fiction"—not necessarily good literary
fiction, mind you, but always worthier of respectful attention than even
the best-written thriller or romance. It is these works that receive
full-page critiques, often one in the Sunday book-review section and
another in the same newspaper during the week. It is these works, and
these works only, that make the annual short lists of award committees.
The "literary" writer need not be an intellectual one. Jeering at
status-conscious consumers, bandying about words like "ontological" and
"nominalism," chanting Red River hokum as if it were from a lost book
of the Old Testament: this is what passes for profundity in novels these
days. Even the most obvious triteness is acceptable, provided it comes
with a postmodern wink. What is not tolerated is a strong element of
action—unless, of course, the idiom is obtrusive enough to keep suspense
to a minimum. Conversely, a natural prose style can be pardoned if a
novel's pace is slow enough, as was the case with Ha Jin's aptly titled
Waiting, which won the National Book Award (1999) and the PEN/Faulkner
Award (2000).

The dualism of literary versus genre has all but routed the old trinity
of highbrow, middlebrow, and lowbrow, which was always invoked
tongue-in-cheek anyway. Writers who would once have been called
middlebrow are now assigned, depending solely on their degree of verbal
affectation, to either the literary or the genre camp. David Guterson
is thus granted Serious Writer status for having buried a murder mystery
under sonorous tautologies (Snow Falling on Cedars, 1994), while Stephen
King, whose Bag of Bones (1998) is a more intellectual but less
pretentious novel, is still considered to be just a very talented genre
storyteller.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200107/myers
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:14 AM
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4. I read that essay a month before 9/11--many lifetimes ago. nt
Edited on Wed Oct-29-08 04:34 AM by petgoat
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