Help!! I'm scared....

[psychonaut]

I need to know if there's any possible way or reason why regular mushrooms (not psilocybin) might end up testing positive for psilocybin anyway?

A bunch of regular mushrooms were confiscated in my room because authorities thought they were psilocybin, but they're not. I know this because I've used them in food. After this happened, I got more from my parents house (where i got the ones I had) and ate an entire ounce at one sitting, and then had my parents do the same. We are absolutely certain that there was no psychological effect.

I currently have charges pending. The charges obviously depend on whether or not the test results come back negative or positive. I go to school in Washington, DC, and the mushrooms were sent to I believe the DEA for testing, and they are taking a REALLY long time about it. It's been over a week since they were confiscated, and I am being told by the school that they wont be able to get the results for several more days.

Does anyone have any idea what might be going on? I'm really scared over here because I've never been in trouble with drugs before. I just have this image in my mind of them coming back and saying "well we found that you have an uncommon strain of mushroom that contains less than one hundredth the psilocybin content of most "shrooms", but since it does have psilocybin we're gonna charge you, you have the right to remain silent..." Or do you think that someone might be pulling some strings and trying to fuck with the test results to get in my trouble? They are taking an AWFULLY long time. What's going on?

Help!

And it was a large amount of them... 4 ounces were confiscated I believe.

[iamjoy]

1. Do You Have A Lawyer?

might not be a bad idea to get one, if you can afford it.

[psychonaut]

4. i have consulted a lawyer, but i cannot afford to hire one "full time"

[Sequoia]

9. Welcome to DU, so sorry about this.

Check in your area to see if there is a Legal Aid office. Some are available at no cost or a very low fee. Let us know the outcome of this.

[whatever4]

11. Hon, you can't afford NOT to. Please, believe me nm

[whatever4]

8. ah, no no no

I think maybe the advice should be to get a lawyer, whether you can afford one or not. Drug warriors need fodder right now, having been slammed for targeting pot over meth and crack. They were highly criticized and they need good pr right now.

Don't let yourself become their pr kid. Also, remember ALWAYS that -

- Not only are police officers allowed to lie to you
- They are practically encouraged to lie to you, it is a tool, it is part of the job
- There is NO recrimination if they lie to you about ANYTHING, and you believe them, and possibly provide some type of "evidence" they can use. Promises mean nothing unless they're in writing, and even then, check with a lawyer.

In short, our law officers are NOT to be trusted, sad but true, and it is true, unfortunately. They are obligated to FOLLOW the law, but they are IN NO WAY obligated to be honest about it, or anything else.

Provide NOTHING else. Do NOTHING you don't have to. Take nothing you are told as by those authorities as necessarily true. I am dead serious about this. I was given this advice BY a lawyer. He said, emphatically, that lying is one tool the authorities use, frequently, and there is NOTHING I repeat NOTHING you can do about it. And this was quite a few years ago, long before BushCo and all the corruption.

It's not that they might lie. It's that they might tell the truth. I'm dead serious about this.

DO GET A LAWYER!

[Richard D]

2. What do you mean . . .

. . . by "regular mushrooms"? Store bought? If so they wouldn't have any psilocybin in them at all.

[Richard D]

3. What do you mean . . .

. . . by "regular mushrooms"? Store bought? If so they wouldn't have any psilocybin in them at all.

[psychonaut]

5. ok

i do not know where they came from. lets just say i thought i was getting something else at the time

[psychonaut]

6. but i am absolutely sure that they have no "effect"

a whole ounce of them did nothing to me, and to several other people who I asked to eat them to make sure.

[Richard D]

10. Oh

Good idea to talk to a lawyer. Likely and hopefully someone ripped you off, but better safe than sorry.

[Tace]

7. Nah -- Just Chill

If they're regular mushrooms, you're in the clear. Did you pick them yourself, or buy them fresh at a market?

Using your logic, you could be busted for the trace of opioid found in iceburg lettuce, or the trace of THC found in beer, because of the hops used.

They're just taking their time. That said, it might be a good idea to talk to a lawyer, especially when you get word back from the man.

(I'm certainly no expert. This is just my take.) Cheers

On Edit: There's something odd about your story. I'll leave it at that.

[psychonaut]

13. well

there is something odd about the story. you guys can infer whatever you want to... i dont trust the internet, now that * is in power, and im just trying to be safe. lets just say i like slipperyslope, and he and i should be friends. what do u guys think with this new information?

[SlipperySlope]

12. Help us understand

Hi psychonaut,

It sounds like there is something you aren't completely telling us. Here is what I think happened:

1: You "got" some mushrooms that you thought were psychoactive.
2: After eating them, nothing happened, and you think they are a non-active species.
3: Somehow they were confiscated, and you are hoping that because they were "duds" you can't be charged.

Is this basically correct?

Regarding them being slow, that is the nature of the beast. Law enforcement and the courts are one giant machine that takes its time. When the results are ready, they will be ready.

Here is the very best advise I think anybody who isn't a lawyer can give you: SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND DON'T SAY ANYTHING - PERIOD. If you can afford a lawyer, even part-time, make sure you don't say anything that the lawyer hasn't approved.

Sooner or later, if they want to charge you, they will charge you. At that time, you'll be entitled to at least a public defender. Anything you said could come back to haunt you, and your new lawyer will have to work around whatever you've already said.

[Tace]

14. I Knew Someone Busted For Supposed Blotter Acid...

that he bought at a concert. He spent a night in the Philly roundhouse lockup and had to post bail. However, when the cops ran the tests, they found out there was no LSD on the paper. He hired an attorney to expunge the records, so that there would be no official record of the arrest.

Edit: That way he could truthfully answer "No" to questions on job applications, etc., about prior arrests.

Good luck, in any case. These drug laws are nuts.

[skids]

15. Welcome to the War on Drugs.

...yep, it even affects your average user of garden-grown foodstuff.

The cops have to be pretty dumb to not be able to tell psylocibin apart from cooking mushrooms -- psylocibin has pretty distinct blue-gray streaks running up the stems and users/dealers rarely ever store them wet. Get a lawyer lined up anyway, though, just in case.

(Oh and don't let the cops intimidate you.)

[K-W]

16. Because you dont know the source of the mushrooms

its impossible for us to know for sure. Have you looked at pictures of magic mushrooms online? Do they look familiar?

It is possible that you got low potency mushrooms that might still test positive, but I couldnt know how much of a risk without more information.

[Gnostic]

17. And since...

...the source is not known, that opens up a whole other Pandora's box of worries such as it being "laced" with something instead of being quality psychoactive mushrooms.

Either way, good luck, and if you have to go down for it, maybe it will serve as a lesson in how to be more careful?

[Lilyhoney]

18. You are stupid for eating unidentified mushrooms.

And I think "intent" is going to be the key word here with the law.

Hard to believe you were not arrested.

[mdmc]

19. so what ended up happenin?

:kick:

[imandrewmurphy]

20. A Setup?

It sounds mighty fishy to me friend...like they tested and came back negative, so they replaced em with their own.

[MGD]

21. It sounds like you are a minor

If so, don't sweat it too much. They can't fuck you the same way they can fuck an adult over something like this. They can still fuck you though but you can recover from it and probably walk away from this with nothing more than a good lesson and a few lawyer fees.

If you were busted selling fake mushrooms to someone that's called selling "counterfeit drugs" and it's a crime.
If you bought counterfeit drugs from a cop, it would be entrapment and you should be ok with a lawyer; however, it might still fly as cops are getting away with more and more these days as our liberties erode.

If they just happened to, for some unknown reason, come into your room and confiscate fake mushrooms, you should be alright too because A.) they aren't aloud to just come into your house for no reason i.e. without a warrant specifying the parameters of the search and B.) You weren't in possession of psilocybin. If they were psychodelic mushrooms that were deactivated for some reason, you may be fucked and you'll need a lawyer for sure. If I were you, I would try to get rehab instead of sentancing.