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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:44 PM
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My friend is panicking about an upcoming job interview...
he has smoked pot a few weeks ago and he is afraid that he will not pass a drug test if he gets the job. I have told him that I believe that if he drinks a lot of water and juices he should be fine but, he says that they may swab his mouth or test his hair in some way. Does anyone know if this is true and if he can by pass any of these tests.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:52 PM
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1. check it out
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 02:53 PM by pepperbear
http://www.passyourdrugtest.com/kits/hair-tests.htm

there are shampoos and he has to be careful to wash ALL the hair on his body, not just his head.

or try the military:



http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=investigators&id=4725999
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:52 PM
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2. If it's a urine test, they'll also check for dilution by creatine levels.
Hair sample, he'll have to shave his head.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:53 PM
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3. My thinking is............
if his life stage placed him in the position to where he needs a job now or to make a job change now....and he knew this a few weeks ago.....then smoked marijuana anyways; well then he probably is a regular user.

His THC level can have him dropping metabolites for at least a month. The THC is in his fat cells...exercise, burning fat will release the THC metabolites giving a dirty urine. Additional variable is where the lab value bar is set to detect drugs of abuse? That you never know.

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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:59 PM
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7. Man one paragraph and you pegged the guy as a regular
pot smoker, what else do you think about him?
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:25 PM
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17. So if he sweats a lot this will help...
what about a steam bath...
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:53 PM
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4. THC is fat soluble.
Takes a while to be purged from the system depending on the speed of one's metabolism.

I know a Chinese Doc who had some tricks to expedite the purging process.

Never needed them so never wrote them down.

Some people used to substitute Mountain Dew soda for their urine. Dunno how they got away with that. Remember people talking about that though the tests have probably become more sophisticated.

This explains it all in terms of absurdity. . .

http://hightowerdownload.com/node/30



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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:30 PM
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18. I liked this video...
is this new. It makes no sense, they are wasting resources trying to stop the use of marijuana when everyone who wants it can get it and use it.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:55 PM
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5. Relax ...
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 02:57 PM by Drifter
Drug tests cost money. The more sophisticated the test, the more it costs. A company will most likely go for the cheaper tests (urine). Also since you're being hired, they do not want to waste time and money testing you, and then losing you.

For a light smoker, a few days might be enough to be undetectable. If it has been a few weeks there should be no problem. Drinking large quantities of water before the test can help. Ease off the day before the test, as they can make you come back if it appears that you are doing this (you will notice that your urine will go clear).

Time is the answer. Remember, they can not drug test you until they give you an offer (and you intend to accept the offer).
Any time you can buy yourself, will help. Don't accept the offer right away, and then when you do, make the test appt. for next week. There are a number of ways that you can stall this.

Good luck

Cheers
Drifter
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nosillies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:03 PM
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9. Be careful, though, as many companies have wised up to the buying time thing
Many companies now require you go for testing within 24 to 48 hours of receiving the offer/paperwork, and will drop the offer for anyone who does not show in said time frame. Many labs do not require appointments for drug testing specifically for this reason.

Companies are savvier and drug testing is more sophisticated than ever before. About the only way to get around things these days are to only interview with places that do not do drug testing, or interview with places that are so small or low-rent that they can't afford good drug testing.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:32 PM
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19. He hasn't went on the interview yet..but
he wants to know how long after you are hired do they do tests and do they do tests on the same day as when they hire. He has been drinking a lot of water and juice and walking.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:17 PM
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20. My company tests immediately after the conditional job offer
Which usually comes at the second interview. They have a supervier drive the candidate to the hospital for the test.
Other companies make job offers over the phone and/or schedule an appointment.
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nosillies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:55 PM
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6. Hair tests go back around 90 days, and are pretty accurate
Some juices teas etc. may prevent a positive urine test, but sorry, labs are smarter these days. Masking drug use by drinking these concoctions will produce what's called a "negative dilute" result. Most companies will allow someone who tested "nd" to go back for a second test, but if it comes back with the same result, they'll probably pass on him.

I don't know about the mouth swab.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:00 PM
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8. EVery job offer contingent on a test has been a urine test. If he has been good for 15 days he is
good. I never failed one after two weeks clean.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:27 PM
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10. There are also sources from which you (he) can obtain a clean sample to
drop in the tube.

Everything, of course, depends on the company and its testing regimen.

Good luck.

And one day may we be more enlightened.
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:29 PM
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11. Here is what he can do
Buy a drug testing kit from the grocery store and test himself. If its neg, it probably will be for the job test as well. A regular pot smoker (daily) especially a male (thc stays in the testicles) can show some thc up to a month of not smoking. It varies by person. His case is iffy - it may show up, it may not show up. I've heard a substance "Golden Seal" (a drink) bought from a health food store can dilute or mask it out on a drug test for urine. The urine test includes affixing temperature sticker to the urine container to ensure the urine was voided recently so you can't substitute someone elses urine that you bring in. For a hair test, these are not done as much or regularly but they are hard to beat. The drug is in the root or follicle and is detected in very low levels. The best is to schedule the test at least a month or two if possible from the last smoke. Other drugs, such as cocaine, leave the system within 72 hrs for the most part, THC stays in the system longer. That's what I know at this time.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 11:36 PM
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14. They screen for Goldenseal now, tc. And you actually can pass with
Edited on Sun Jul-15-07 11:42 PM by vickiss
someone else's urine. One, too often high, friend of mine managed by carrying the urine in a balloon taped next to her body and a thermometer. Temp was close enough she passed. Lucky gal she was.

Goldenseal is most often a capsule, but there are some good cleanser drinks out there without traced elements; yet.

Hair can test back a year, iirc, further back if very long hair. A friend had to shave his waist-length mane a few years back anticipating the new hair testing policy starting in 2 months, a random test 2 months later and clear clean hair.

Very sad though, he has become a raging alcoholic since having to quit toking. I know too many in this area that have developed serious alcohol problems, without the weed, to keep their shit jobs. :(

And what is most infuriating to me is the hypocritical pigs that have allowed the insurance corps to bully them into testing, even for washing cars at a lot, are quite often drinking their lunch and dinners. :grr:

You can even be a morphine addict and pass a test the next day, my ex- good metabolism, bad addiction.

The War on Drugs is mainly a War on Pot. Pitiful.

:hi:

on edit: Good advice on getting a drugstore test kit first.





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Ben Masel Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:18 PM
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12. Baconfat
Eating a heavy greasy load 8 hours before the test can also reduce levels in the urine sample. With new fats in your bloodstream, less stored fats are released from your tissues.
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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 08:56 AM
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13. You can detox
by drinking fluids and working out a bunch. But if it is a hair folical test hes fucked
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stressfulreality Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:42 PM
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15. a friend of mine detoxed for a urine test then passed a surprise hair test...
i think he just got lucky.
the first step is to find out what they use.

urine tests are "easy". i ironically passed a Halliburton test after 2 days clean.
tell him not to drink just water though, because it will dilute and they will know.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:24 PM
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16. What should he drink?
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