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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 04:10 PM
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I just dont get it...
Why would I be considered hireable if I were a raging, wife-beating alcoholic, yet deemed a menace to society not fit for employment if I smoke a little pot? I understand it is illegal but....damn I really begin to hate our country sometimes. We are not the land of the free, we are the land of the policed. Marijuana needs to be legalized, there are millions of people who are model citizens, they give back to their community, they participate in charity events and help others, and they smoke pot. Alcohol is the real problem, or hell tobacco is worse, you can die just from being around it. A rant due to some crappy circumstances lately.

:mad: :smoke: :mad:
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 04:28 PM
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1. I hear ya!
And...I see you are for Dennis! Just think of one of his speeches...that'll make ya feel better. Really- the man simply ROCKS- and if we can't have GORE- we absolutely NEED- KUCINICH!!!!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 04:29 PM
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2. Because corporations make a huge amount of money from
alcohol so they have exerted a hell of a lot of pressure on government to make sure that alcohol is legal. Governments get a huge amount of money from taxing alcohol, so they're not about to stop supporting alcohol consumption.

Anyone could grow pot, or get pot that was not corporate grown, so the big powers that be will never support it.

As for violence against women, far too many people still think it's a private matter, and that it's wrong to interfere with the guy's private life. He apparently has a right to beat women.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 04:30 PM
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3. If you've been arrested
You might well not be fit for employment, for wife beating or pot use. As to drug testing, well I don't support it in most circumstances anyway, so I can't answer that one for you.
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 04:34 PM
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4. Pre-employment testing at a placement center.
To me only hard drugs should be tested for, (coke, crack, heroin) ones that will negatively affect your health and performance not weed.
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 04:46 PM
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5. the answer is control
The powers that be know that a large percentage of americans smoke pot sometimes and the fear of getting caught is a powerful control point. Pot smokers usually keep a low profile. They work low paying jobs that don't piss test. They have less ambition. They seldom vote. They live in fear of the law. The last point is the most important. Law and order types love the thought that the drug using public are afraid of them and use it to full advantage. The casual user may inform on the dealer to get a lighter sentence. The low paid user will spend more than they can easily afford on a plant that costs little to grow thereby making then dependent on a crappy job with no benefits.
As to legalizing it the government would not know how to even start. They are much better at taking away rights than granting them. It would Take a constitutional amendment to do it as well as A bunch of new laws concerning use by minors, sale to minors' what is it's worth in the event of theft, the cultivation of pot as a home business, you get the idea. It will never be nationally legalized for hundreds of different reasons but the main reason is that the powers fear what would happen if hundreds of thousands of citizens no longer had a reason to fear law enforcement.
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 04:59 PM
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6. I hear you
I'm getting a pretty severe case of carpal tunnel syndrome, but I can't get help through worker's comp because they require a drug test first thing (and I wouldn't pass). My co-worker who is not a pot smoker but drinks like a fish, DID get help for carpal tunnel.

I HATE the ridiculous War on Drugs; it's a War on pot; drugs like alcohol and tobacco are apparently a-fucking-okay.
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 05:03 PM
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7. I know where you're coming from, but reality doesn't play on the same team
You have to look back to history. Hemp and marijuana were made illegal for two different reasons. Hemp was strong fibrous plant that would grow well without any assistance. The logging and paper industries didn't want the competition. Marijuana was a feel good resource that grew naturally and didn't require any real processing. You could throw a few seeds in the ground and didn't have to pay anyone for the privilege. Alcohol in any form requires some processing, so if you didn't do it yourself, you had to pay someone else to do the work. This was also at the time of prohibition, so the theocratic influence at the time didn't accept any feel good substance.

I'm a consumer of both alcohol and tobacco(in serious quantities) and don't think I'll change my ways. I don't need to live forever or be in the best of health. I've rarely smoked mj since the 70's because it was never the same after some shit laced with PCP.

The most current problem is that the power structure relies on mj as a source for controlling the average people looking for an escape. It's a major boost for the law enforcement/prison-industrial complex. They are getting rich off this shit. If they're making money from it, there's not much chance they'll change. Double check that with Bartcop's rules.
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:33 PM
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8. I would love to see this question asked..
at some of these debates...
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:16 PM
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9. Should have YouTubed it.
But it wouldnt have been shown.
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