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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:17 PM
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Marijuana Studies: A Comprehensive Collection.....
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"The Studies

Marijuana Fights:

Heart Disease
Cancer
Diabetes
Osteoporosis
Alzheimer's
Liver Disease
Epilepsy
Skin Allergies
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
Anxiety and Depression

and is also Neuroprotective and Causes Neurogenesis (brain cell growth)"

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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:19 PM
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1. but I saw a movie in high school;
they said that stuff will kill ya':sarcasm:
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:04 AM
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7. If you are smoking while driving it will.
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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 01:53 PM
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9. I had hoped someone else would get this
Edited on Thu May-22-08 01:56 PM by Asgaya Dihi
but since they haven't yet...

Driving while distracted in ANY way is a bad idea, be it eating, drinking a soda, doing make-up or whatever else. But the supposed connection between pot and traffic accidents is largely garbage and if you thought about it for more than half a second with even basic knowledge of the subject you should already know that.

They don't test and don't generally even have the ability to test to see if you're high right now. What they test for is metabolites which can show days or weeks after use depending on the sensitivity of the test and how heavily they've used. They detect pot use and simply assume it must have been a factor when it might have been days or a week or two ago that you smoked some. It's little different than charging someone for drunk driving on Thursday because they had a few beers in front of the game on Sunday and makes no more sense in a public safety context.

That aside, even when under the influence pot is lower risk than alcohol for sure and probably less risky than many prescription drugs people use and drive or work under all the time. It has been studied by multiple groups and some of the results of those studies collected on the following page. You might want to take some time to learn the difference between the realities and the urban legends.

http://www.drugwardistortions.org/distortion12.htm

All that said, no, it's still not a good idea to drive impaired on anything and I'd rather they didn't. But given the choice between sharing the road with one drunk or 5 stoners I'd take the stoners any time. They at least know they are impaired and compensate for it. The drunk doesn't. If we could replace half the drunks out there with stoners instead, and many would prefer to smoke given the choice and equivalent legal implications, we'd probably save lives.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:22 PM
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2. I'm going upstairs now and fight these things
Be back soon.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:05 PM
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3. You forgot glaucoma.
I've been on that prevention program for 40 years.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:03 AM
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4. Thanks. Yet the media fails to tell people why it is bad.
It is wise to use purified Marijuana for medical reasons only when the patient needs it.

It makes one hungry so people get Diabetes, etc. because they gain extra weight. Those patients with Anorexia might use it for a stimulus to eat, etc.

Use of Marijuana leads to the use of worse drugs such as Cocaine in the future. A bad habit is a bad habit.

Best not to put anything into your body that is not food or water, etc.

We've known this since the late seventies because of Vietnam heavy use.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:32 PM
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5. Who's we?
Have you got a mouse in your pocket? :shrug:
Please explain the purified marijuana.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:18 PM
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6. The scientific community.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:11 PM
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11. That's bullshit! Next. nt
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:02 AM
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8. Oh really!
Don't know if you are serious or just being sarcastic but 'purified marijuana?', 'gate way drug'?. Don't have much comment on 'purified marijuana' because I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The gateway idea I can say is absolute BS. Yes being around the drug culture by using/purchasing marijuana may put you in contact with other drugs ie coke, speed, x whatever and therefore may lead people to experiment/try these other drugs. That in no way shows that there is something intrinsic in the nature of marijuana that causes you to 'have to try harder drugs'. Some people are just more curious and risk taking than others so they 'try' a lot of things. I can attest to that by personal experience. I 'experimented' with lots of different drugs in my youth some more than others. I am now over 50 years old and only on rare occasions smoke a little pot. No rehab, no interventions no help at all just stopped buying the stuff and stopped using it. The 'gateway' idea is an old 'reefer madness' type argument that pot makes you 'out of control' and therefore 'leads you' to do other things. Its simple if you legalized and taxed pot using the proceeds to educate and treat those that want it you would make it less likely that users would be exposed to these other drugs. Would some pot smokers still decide to try these other drugs? Sure they would they are the curious and risk taking a crowd and would make the personal decision to try them but would not a compelled by the consumption of a weed.

As a side note, people look at the numbers. Drug epidemic? Yes there are people with a propensity to become addicted that can have their lives destroyed by drug use and they need our help. The vast majority of those (a guess but I would say over 95%) that try/experiment with drugs either don't like it and never do it again or grow out of it and stop using on their own. If you took the pot smokers out of the 'epidemic' numbers pushed by the government the 'epidemic' would be a relatively small number of unfortunate people.
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 04:35 PM
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10. I don't think you know anything... n/t
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 02:48 PM
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12. wow
As a medical cannabis user I am not sure what this "purified" medical stuff is. If that means organic, then that's the stuff I get. If that means concentrated (hash, baby) then the purer the better and organic too as far as I'm concerned.

Of the many marijuana users that I know, all educated, all professionals, all in their mid 40's and users for at least 20 years, none of them nor myself overweight or diabetic. No coke fiends, no methheads, no heroin addicts.

I confess I used coke less than five times back in the 80's but I don't believe that stemmed from pot use, but rather from the coke culture of the 80's and the crowd I was with.

I'm sure that Agent Orange has more to do with Vietnam health issues than pot use does. The government doesn't have any obligation to wage safe and healthful war and soldiers are routinely exposed to harmful chemicals and environments. My guess is that breathing the air in major U.S. cities is as bad as pot usage might be.

As far as putting only "food and water" into your body, well, good luck to us all on that point. Try as we might, food and water are frequently tainted with chemicals and other things we would rather not have in them if we could choose. There must be a few people in this country capable of governing the purity of all food / water intake, but I bet its only just a few.

Many FDA approved medications are also nearly as harmful as the diseases they hope to combat. That leaves us with our own initiative.

If you don't want your share of the risks or benefits that's fine by me.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 02:41 PM
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13. Thanks for the input!
well said.
:hi:
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:38 AM
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14. Ok Mr. Anslinger.
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Mike K Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:38 PM
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15. Mac2, I respectfully suggest that you are a typical example -
- of one who has been successfully misinformed by Reefer Madness propaganda.

It is wise to use purified Marijuana for medical reasons only when the patient needs it.


There is no such thing as "purified" marijuana. But there is a great deal of contaminated marijuana for sale on the streets, just as there was a lot of toxic "bathtub gin" sold during alcohol prohibition, which is one very good reason to legalize marijuana.

It makes one hungry so people get Diabetes, etc. because they gain extra weight. Those patients with Anorexia might use it for a stimulus to eat, etc.


This presumes that everyone who is overweight will become diabetic, which simply isn't true. McDonalds, et al, is who you should be focusing this concern upon. And anorexics are anti-food, so why would they want a "stimulus to eat?"

Best not to put anything into your body that is not food or water, etc.


A sterile and wholly unrealistic notion. If you adhere to such a fanatically ascetic regimen I would suppose there are maybe three or four others in the U.S. who do -- and I will wager that all are unbearable to be around.

We've known this since the late seventies because of Vietnam heavy use.


What we have known since the late seventies is that the Vietnam debacle was a tragic mistake which cost the lives of 58,000 American troops and caused the physical and psychological maiming of tens of thousands more. If you had the opportunity to speak with a few veterans of the fighting in Vietnam you would learn that the use of marijuana is what enabled them to deal with the things they experienced there. The legitimate purpose of palliative drugs is to relieve pain and what our grunts experienced in Vietnam was the very essence of relentless, protracted mental agony. Without access to the relief available from smoking pot a lot more of them would not have made it home intact.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 07:53 PM
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16. kick. nt
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