Joe Biden

[cannabis_flower]

I would like to discuss Joe Biden as the vice presidential nominee. Now I understand that he may have some desirable traits. But he voted for the war. And not only that he is the person responsible for the creation of the drug czar's office. And he is a member of the Narcotics Control Committee. I think he is also responsible for the RAVE act. I didn't see any comment on this board so I thought I would bring these up. What is your opinion of Joe Biden's nomination?

[Heidi]

1. Harry J. Anslinger was the US's first drug czar.

He was appointed to the (then) newly-created Federal Bureau of Narcotics as its first commissioner in 1930. Sen. Biden wasn't even born until 12 years later.

[cannabis_flower]

Anslinger was not the drug czar

He was the head of the Bureau of Narcotics. From Wikipedia -

The title was first published in a 1982 news story by United Press International which reported that “Senators... voted 62-34 to establish a ‘drug czar’ who would have overall responsibility for U.S. drug policy.”

It is the head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

[Heidi]

5. My point is that Sen. Biden isn't responsible for our misguided war on drugs,

which more accurately could be called a war on people. The US war on drugs has been going on since the 1930s at least and is rooted in racism. In my opinion, it's misleading to imply that Sen. Biden had anything to do with the inception of the US drug war.

You asked for opinions. That's mine. :hi:

[cannabis_flower]

You don't think so..

Read this thread..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3852171

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[logjon]

11. he's not responsible

he has proven himself to be one of the biggest extremist drug warriors though, and he's absolutely sure there's a better way than medical marijuana. wonder where he got his medical degree? after all, he obviously knows so much more than the doctors who advocate marijuana research.

[cannabis_flower]

3. Anslinger was not the drug czar

He was the head of the Bureau of Narcotics. From Wikipedia -

The title was first published in a 1982 news story by United Press International which reported that “Senators... voted 62-34 to establish a ‘drug czar’ who would have overall responsibility for U.S. drug policy.”

It is the head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

[cannabis_flower]

4. Anslinger was not the drug czar

He was the head of the Bureau of Narcotics. From Wikipedia -

The title was first published in a 1982 news story by United Press International which reported that “Senators... voted 62-34 to establish a ‘drug czar’ who would have overall responsibility for U.S. drug policy.”

It is the head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

[Lost4words]

2. I dont think many here remember Bidens run for the Dem nomination for Pres some years ago.

Joe Biden is an establishment Democrat.

I DONT HAVE WARM FUZZIES about this, and I am afraid the hopes for vast changes are circling the drain.

Oh I'll vote for the Democratic ticket but my personal enthusiasm is now in the septic tank.

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[bamacrat]

7. This is worrysome but its more up to our Congress than the VP.

If Barney Frank can get his legislation to pass it would remove federal penalty for possession and leave it up to the states to decide on legality.

[TxRider]

10. Wow..

I was all hatin on Barney.. I have to totally rethink my position on him now...

[bulldogge]

8. Biden

was instrumental in the creation of the current format of the drug czar in the 1980's with a direct focus on the importing of narcotics, he recently has focused his attention on rural community's and methamphetamines as well as a focus on designer drugs. Another point that should be brought up is that Biden is responsible for creating "drug court" with the intention of separating violent and non violent crimes. He also has passed legislation concerning rehabilitation for individuals currently incarcerated and those who have been arrested for the first time. Nobody ever said the guy was a libertarian.

[Karl_Bonner_1982]

9. Biden did promote a few bad laws here and there

But he's no right wing moralist. He does support treatment funding for addicts and such.

Any Democrat can become an "establishment" politician if they are allowed to. The way to get real change is to first elect a Democrat and then keep our eyes on him/her so that they don't run off and become too comfortable with the status quo. Change begins with Obama-Biden, but it doesn't END there. We have to demand it after the election is over.