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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:30 AM
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Stopped and busted for pot by Border Patrol


I get this call last night from a female friend, on her way to New Mexico from California via Interstate 8 ("Fascist Highway" I will nickname it).

Turns out her and a friend were heading to meet up with some other friends to have a nice Memorial Day weekend.
Well that changed at the checkpoint near Welton AZ.
The dogs went crazy, jumped on her car, scratching the hell out of it.

Ended up confiscating 1/2 ounce of bud but not before the young agent went from threatening her with felony, then acting like her friend asking her very personal questions, to finally a misdomenar with an August date in court in Welton, AZ.

OK...she blew it by having the pot in her trunk.
However, the unprofessional treatment by the agent, his macho delight, his getting personal, his asking what her husband does for a living and how often she partakes as examples.
She was shook up bad. They fucked with her mind. She played friendly and nice in order to not get her Dodge Charger confiscated and a felony but she is pissed that she had to do this.

This is the Feds.
This is under Obama.

When will this insane war on weed stop?


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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:32 AM
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1. It will change when the laws are changed. Not before.
Until then, traveling with weed is risky, as it has been for a long, long time. Work to change the laws.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:34 AM
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2. Pretty tough in this "idiot nation"


All of mainstream media marginalizes pot and giggles like school children when stories are broadcast.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:39 AM
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5. No doubt. But...that checkpoint is not a surprise.
They've been busting people there with small quantities of drugs for a long time. Who travels on I-8 who doesn't know that?

There's a thriving community of attorneys there, making their living represented people who have been stopped. Google Welton AZ Checkpoint for a list of them.

People who are holding should not go through these checkpoints. Basic common sense.

Is it unjust? Sure. Is it a reality? Absolutely.
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:48 AM
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11. We won. We've controlled Congress and the Executive.
Obama decided to keep throwing us in jail. It provides more jobs for Police Unions.

Here's a story about a pot shop worker joining up.... and the LEOs unions attitude.

"Of course, police officer associations and the correctional officers union are unlikely to throw their support behind the ballot measure, since more drug arrests means more money and jobs for law enforcement and prisons."

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics/Oakland-Pot-Club-Says-Union-Yes-jw-95052719.html
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:54 AM
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12. "We won..."

Yeah...you'd think now that a "Radical Leftist" is President along with all those "Liberal Dems" in Congress we would be growing the stuff for paper, clothing, fuel, and building material by now.

:sarcasm: x10
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 08:43 PM
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20. I just thought we had elected a compassionate human being....
instead they continue the war on their own people.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:36 AM
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3. Highway check points?
Since I retired to my little rural southern town, I never leave it, thus have missed out on the
apparently growing practice of "checkpoints". I have not been on a freeway since 2005, when I drove from SF to Ala.
Where I never saw a checkpoint.
How widespread are they?


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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:39 AM
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4. I8 is near Mexico


We also have them on the I5 north of Oceanside CA and I15 north of Escondido just south of Temecula CA.

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:40 AM
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6. And people with any brains in their head don't transport weed
through them. I mean...really...it's not a new thing.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:43 AM
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8. Got it the first time...
...thanks
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skeptical cynic Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:00 AM
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14. I remember that Interstate 5 check point.
Edited on Fri May-28-10 10:02 AM by skeptical cynic
I was stationed at Camp Pendleton, so we drove through it all the time.

My wife is a Native American, and she's always mistaken for a Latina. So we were routinely asked to pull into the side lanes for questioning and searching. This was in 1979.

From my wife's perspective, the only immigration problem we have began in 1492.

Marijuana laws are stupid. Just stupid. Checkpoints, too.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 07:06 AM
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27. Clear violation of the 4th Amendment (you know, the one that says the government has to have a
REASON and a WARRANT to search you, your car or your home. I know, it's passe' now to expect our rights to be honored.
There is an SC decision that states that at road blocks, law enforcement can only ask for ONE identifying document, i.e. driver's license.
Having dogs sniff vehicles is a presumption of guilt, equally applied. It is essentially a fascist, police state move that we're putting up with. Be aware of your rights and demand them. Yes, there may be pushback, but ALWAYS be polite about it. I've known a number of people who have stood up for their rights and WON.
This is just flat out wrong and goes on because most people are just flat out affraid not to comply.
This is how you build a police state.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:47 AM
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10. Used to see 'roving checkpoints' along AZ state highways pretty often
Lots of them on quiet, two lane north/south highways, Bunch of officers from any number of agencies would just swoop down and set up a stop station. At least when there were a bunch of them, I felt better as it lessened the likelihood of one or two agents without witnesses being abusive to people they had at their mercy. But it was always a pain in the ass, and I never once saw a bust, or even a suspicious motorist. Just miles of cars parked for indefinite periods of time on travel lanes in the countryside.

Fear and intimidation.... all part of the training for John Q. Public, newly tamed and domesticated species, formerly known as Americans.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:13 AM
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15. This has been going on in the SW since the middle of shrub's term.
I'm surprised it has continued under a more adult mind.

-Hoot
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timo Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 06:52 AM
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23. in border states
within 80 miles of the border they are and have been a regular feature
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 01:19 AM
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29. Pretty widespread.
They set up check point on the interstates in border states.

Say you want to go to Arizona from Texas, you'll have to pull off and go through two checkpoints on interstate 10 to get there.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:41 AM
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7. Like any other law enforcement, Border Patrol has its share of guys on the make
Some think a uniform is a license to prey on women. Sounds like this is another case in point.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:45 AM
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9. I don't know but traveling through here (AZ) without being squeaky clean (and white)
is pretty stoopid

the "border" patrol could probably contain the immigration AND drug problem if they actually PATROLLED the BORDER instead of being thinly spread out all over the fucking state!
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:56 AM
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13. It will end when "Big Tobaco" decides they can make more money as "Bug Weed".
At that point, since it's capitalist corporation asking,
the law will be changed.

(And no, I don't think I'm being sarcastic.)

Tesha
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:14 AM
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16. "Bug Weed"
:rofl:

-Hoot
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 01:02 PM
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19. Well, I obviously meant to type "Big Weed", but it was a pretty funny typo! (NT)
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:15 PM
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24. They will never be able to
Anyone could grow a few fat plants in their front lawn and have more pot than they could ever dream of smoking.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:38 AM
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17. I will not stop when we DEMAND it stops.
NORML should do more to organize and protest this insanity.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:43 AM
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18. To bust people like my friend...

...is nothing more than stealing.

It is the government working hand in hand with attorneys to steal from the citizens.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 12:15 AM
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21. Stopped and busted for being stupid...
CARRY ONLY WHAT YOU CAN EAT ... and try not to carry at all outside your home.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 07:54 AM
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22. Self righteous....

...condemnation really helps.

NOT

Hey...she is the first one to admit it was a dumb thing to do.


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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 11:36 AM
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25. Any amount of pot is a class 6 felony in Arizona
Edited on Sun Jun-13-10 11:39 AM by JonLP24
Unless it's your first offense and then you can plea bargain for a class 1 misdemeanor. If you fail to send a check to the Arizona DEA and other terms of your probation, they bump it up to a felony. Any other offense after that is a felony.

Same thing applies to paraphernalia as well.
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Paul E Ester Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 09:26 PM
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26. 26 yo gets life w/o parole sentence for smuggling marijuana

Three more of the 12 men accused of running a marijuana distribution ring in the Quad-Cities area were sentenced Friday, one of them to life in federal prison.

Noah Adam Landfried was sentenced to life without parole by federal Judge Michael M. Mihm, according to court documents files in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of Iowa. He pleaded guilty in March to conspiracy to distribute marijuana.

Ross Eugene Landfried III was sentenced to 240 months in prison, while Phillip Stephen Preda was sentenced to 42 months, the records state. They have also pleaded guilty to the conspiracy charge.

They and the others were accused in April, 2009 of trafficking in at least 1,000 kilograms of marijuana from 2002 to 2009 in Henry County, records state.

http://qconline.com/archives/qco/display.php?id=503856
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 09:38 AM
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28. If he pled guilty in hope of gaining leniency, the tactic clearly failed! n.t
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