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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:41 AM
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Legalization of Cannabis
I like the way California is attempting it.

Two prong approach:
Personal usage and allowing farmers and industry to grow and utilize hemp.

Downplaying the commercialization of personal use and going forward with the understanding that tax revenues to be gained from industrial hemp growth and utilization is where the real impact will be felt revenue wise.

I know that those currently growing are enjoying an artificially inflated market price.
Those relying on it to make a living would have to modify what they are doing considering the price would fall through the floor and become priced...well...like a weed.

Personal Use Initiative:

1490. (11-0011, Amdt. #1S)
Marijuana Legalization. Initiative Statute.
Summary Date: 07/22/11 | Circulation Deadline: 12/19/11 | Signatures Required: 504,760
Proponents: James P. Gray, Steve Kubby, and William McPike (415) 830-6070

Decriminalizes marijuana sales, distribution, possession, use, cultivation, processing, and transportation by persons 21 or older. Dismisses pending court actions inconsistent with its provisions. Prohibits advertising, except medical marijuana. Prohibits zoning restrictions on marijuana cultivation and processing. Applies existing agricultural taxes and regulations to marijuana; exempts noncommercial production up to 25 flowering plants or 12 pounds processed marijuana annually. Authorizes retail sales of marijuana with one percent THC or more to persons 21 or older; if less, no age limit. Directs state and local officials to not cooperate with enforcement of federal laws inconsistent with its provisions. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local governments: The fiscal effects of this measure could vary substantially depending on: (1) the extent to which the federal government continues to enforce federal marijuana laws and (2) the specific taxes and regulations applied to marijuana. Savings of potentially several tens of millions of dollars annually to state and local governments on the costs of incarcerating and supervising certain marijuana offenders. Potentially hundreds of millions of dollars in net additional tax revenues related to the production and sale of marijuana products. (11-0011.) (Full Text)

Hemp Legalization:

At the bottom is a link to letters of support from the groups in bold. Not exactly the stereotypical "hippie" nonsense portrayed in the media. In fact these are conservative leaning groups to be sure.
The Gov is in a tough spot. I am sure the national party leadership will want him to veto it for political posturing but if he does he will piss off a lot of people here in CA from a wide political spectrum.



California Hemp Bill Awaits Governor’s Signature

A bill that would allow farmers in four California counties to grow industrial hemp has passed the state legislature and now sits on the desk of Gov. Jerry Brown (D) awaiting his signature. The bill, Senate Bill 676, the California Industrial Hemp Farming Act, passed the Senate earlier this year, then passed the Assembly last week.
http://cannabis.hawaiinewsdaily.com/2011/09/12/california-hemp-bill-awaits-governors-signature

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Introduced by Senator Mark Leno early in 2011, SB 676 would create an 8-year pilot program to allow industrial hemp farming in four California counties: Kern, Kings, Imperial, and San Joaquin. This is the third time in ten years that the California legislature has passed a hemp farming bill. However, SB 676 is further refined than previous bills and has significant support from businesses, farming groups, local governments, labor unions, and even law enforcement.

The bill is endorsed by the California State Grange, the UCFW-5, the Imperial County Farm Bureau, California Certified Organic Growers and other leading farm organizations. In August, the Kings County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously to support the bill. Significantly, the Kings and Kern County Sheriffs have also submitted letters in support of the bill, with Kings County Sheriff Dan Robinson leading the charge on behalf of law enforcement.

http://www.votehemp.com/letters.html

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redneckdemocrat Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 07:55 AM
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1. Preach On Brother
I like the way you talk!
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ObamaFTW2012 Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 12:15 PM
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2. I know it will never happen, but...
..I'd like to see marijuana completely legalized. It doesn't make sense to continue making criminals out of people who use a drug less dangerous than the current legal and popular drugs alcohol and tobacco. Marijuana, a Schedule 1 controlled substance, is a "gateway drug" to other LESS DANGEROUS Schedule 2 controlled substances like cocaine? Does anybody else find that devoid of logic?
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NikRik Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:08 AM
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3. Drinking more of a grateway the pot !
Edited on Wed Oct-26-11 07:08 AM by NikRik
I know from when I was in my twenties that the night clubs and drinking where more of a grateway to cociane and other hard drugs.So those who claim pot is a grateway are just ignorant.I will admit our current laws only confuse our youth and they most likley think if the goverment is wrong on pot it must be wrong on other more dangerous drugs.So if anything they the Goverment laws are pushing are youth to trying other illegal drugs once they see what BS the pot laws are !
IMHO.,NiKRik
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LeftOfCenter7 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:14 AM
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6. Gateway drugs
If marijuana was legalized, I am guessing that it would no longer be a 'gateway drug'. I think that there are three main reasons that marijuana is a gateway drug:

1) It is illegal
2) It is less harmful than other drugs
3) It is the most commonly found illegal drug

With the first and third reasons gone, the second one has nothing to stand upon. Marijuana will be no different than a less harmful version of alcohol (they are both mind-altering, alcohol more so).
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ObamaFTW2012 Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:42 AM
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7. The only things pot lead to are
snacks, dumb movies, and sleep. Potheads aren't going to rob a gas station for pot money, and they aren't going to crash a car at 2AM and kill someone. They aren't going to get into a fight in a bar parking lot and kill somebody.

Prohibition is stupid, whether it's pot, beer, or guns.
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LeftOfCenter7 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:16 PM
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8. Beer and guns
Idealistically (meaning if drinking beer and smoking were not so deeply engraved into our culture), marijuana would probably be legalized, and people would be fighting for beer and gun rights instead.
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ObamaFTW2012 Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:30 PM
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9. I like the occasional beer myself,
and usually a good microbrew porter when I drink a beer, but I don't know if I'd ever fight for one. Maybe I just never had a good enough beer? hehe.
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TeamPooka Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 01:32 AM
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4. Prohibitio­n is a failed public policy.
Legalizing cannabis turns a money pool controlled by cartels into taxes, jobs and revenue that benefit all citizens.
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duhneece Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 08:20 AM
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5. CA UFCW head just spoke at International Drug Policy Reform Conference
I can't recall his name just now, but he spoke eloquently about the need for organized labor to be part of hemp or medical marijuana industry.
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Herbie Hancock Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 06:19 PM
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10. We Can Keep Dreaming For Reform
Hopefully one day it will actually happen!
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