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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:12 PM
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Middle schoolers face more charges in connection with classroom sex act
WARNER ROBINS — Two Warner Robins Middle School students who allegedly engaged in oral sex in a classroom while a substitute teacher and other students were present are facing additional charges.

Along with the public indecency charges first reported in The Telegraph on Friday, both students are being charged with sodomy and disruption of public school. The male student will also be charged with solicitation of sodomy and violation of probation, said Capt. Jerry Stewart of the Juvenile Division of the Houston County Sheriff’s Department.


Both students are being detained at the Crisp Regional Youth Detention Center, said Stewart, who has been working with Sgt. Porter Wood, school liaison officer for the Warner Robins Police Department, on the investigation.

The two students have a hearing scheduled in Houston County Juvenile Court Monday, Stewart said.


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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:21 PM
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1. And THIS is the reason I'm for separate gender classrooms
I don't care a rat's ass what the explanation for what happened here is. ALL kids need to attend separate gender classrooms or, better yet, SCHOOLS.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:28 PM
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3. One blowjob is proof of a need for segregation?
It may be anecdotal, but the wildest girls I knew in high school attended all-girl parochial schools.

Too many restrictions are as bad as too much permissiveness...and we learn to interact with different people in healthy ways by exposure, not segregation.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:58 PM
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19. One blowjob, no, but an endless series of studies showing that males can't seem to sit
their ass down on the seat long enough to pay attention, to study, to focus, to anything.

They should be in their own classrooms with male teachers, while females should be in their own with female teachers. If a male gets horny and wants sex in the classroom, he can get a hall pass and go to the bathroom and wank it right off.


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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:20 PM
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24. Your Full of Shit
A whole slew of studies also show Girls are responsible for a majority of Class Room Bullying which is a leading cause of Child Suicide.

Should we just lock up all the little girls to be on the safe side

Additional Studies also demonstrate girls do not develop the analytical capabilities until a later age to keep up with Boys in Math and Science.

Should we bar them from Math and Science courses in school to keep them from lowering the curve

Your Bigotry and alliances are very telling indeed
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:49 PM
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38. If that's true, then separate them and we'll see.
If they're not going to have sex in elementary school or jr or high school, I see no reason to be pushing them together and getting them ready for sex.

Already separate gender schools exist in California, and they're going very well. The boys are doing better and so are the girls.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:15 AM
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30. Ok, you're angry at men.
Gotcha.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:46 PM
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37. No. I'm angry at hypocrisy. That might involve women or men.
And men and women do not belong in the same classroom. When it's time to get together for sex in the late teens, I'm sure they don't have any trouble finding one another. They don't even need antennae.
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teenagebambam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:59 AM
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33. I'm gay
I can guarantee that an all- male environment would have pretty distracting to ME.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:45 PM
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36. Fine, but isn't your libido about as high as theirs? You'd fit right in. nt
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:43 AM
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45. blowjobs in class isn't about libido. it's about defying authority & getting props.
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 03:44 AM by Hannah Bell
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 06:53 PM
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44. I'm a girl who had problems sitting still in class.
I have a learning disability. And bipolar disorder. As a kid, even though I didn't know it at the time, what made me unable to sit still in class was probably that I was hypomanic about half the time - when I wasn't depressed.

How's that stereotyping working for ya?
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chandler2 Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:17 AM
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35. It certainly might be worth considering, along with

serious punishment for those involved in the incident.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:48 PM
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12. A wonderful example of stupid there-oughta-be-a-law kneejerks right here. (nt)
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:49 PM
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13. Didn't a large portion of this country fight to end segregation
What you feel 1 girl's right were violated and that is reason enough to set the country back 60 years
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:57 PM
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18. Girls are getting equality with males creating sh*t in the classroom?
I think not!
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:11 PM
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21. It was the Girl who Instigated and Performed theSex Act
Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 11:12 PM by FreakinDJ
but thanks for playing anyway

Feminist don't want TRUE EQUALITY anyway - then they would have to go into War and get killed, and receive harsher court sentencing just like men do
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:22 PM
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25. Your misogyny is showing. And why lie about something that can so easily be
proven false? The boy instigated this, and that's why he's being charged with solicitation in addition to the other charges.

From the link at the OP:

"A male student asked a female student to perform oral sex on him, and she agreed. The substitute teacher was helping students in the front of the classroom, and her view was obstructed by other students sitting in the room."
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:51 PM
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39. Then SEPARATE them and I guarantee you and will bet you any amt of money
that kind of thing will not happen again. How much would you put on the table?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:55 PM
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41. WTH are you talking about? It's already being done in California and going quite well
If you have a problem with it, you need to find out why you insist on throwing boys and girls together come hell or high water.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:30 PM
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29. These two little fuckballs...
...need to be separated from everyone else.

Most males and females are fine in classes together. I've never even heard of a situation
in which a young girl gives a blow job to a classmate--during class.

These stupid, classless dumbshits need to be punished, and they certainly aren't important
enough to dictate what the rest of the world does--or how other students learn.

Yeah, complete morons do stuff like this--but the vast majority of human beings do not act this way.

Sorry, but males and females do not need to be segregated just because a couple of scumbags
decided to act like freaks.

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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:30 AM
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31. That is why it is newsworthy. This is beyond the norm and about beyond the pale. . n/t
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:54 PM
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40. Separate the genders until they're 18 and this kind of sh*t will not happen nt
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 06:51 PM
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43. And the non-straight folks?
Homosexuality is not a magic lightning bolt that hits you at the age of 18.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:18 AM
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34. Why stop there?
Why not keep little boys in closed camps, complete with barbed wire, until they reach puberty. Then, extract and store their frozen semen, for reproductive use. Then euthanize them humanely. No education would be required, and the future of the human race would be assured.

Just imagine the possibilities here. Imagine all the problems such a scheme would solve. :sarcasm:
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 06:50 PM
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42. Ya know, I've slept with girls before...
and I'm a girl.

Not in a classroom, mind you, but your point fails.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:27 PM
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2. This makes no sense.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:29 PM
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4. A LOT of things make no sense. I don't see how a substitute
would not see something was amiss.

That sub will never work again. There are attorneys waiting in the wings just READY to pounce on the school district for "negligence."
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:19 PM
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22. Knock on wood but, as a substitute teacher of middle schoolers...
...I'd like to think that I'd be aware of something like that going on in the classroom. Although, I do know that, before I had hearing aids, the kids got away with a lot more "bad acts" on my watch. I guess we don't really know the entire picture. Once, on a long term assignment, I was at the board helping some kids and a couple of 7th graders went behind the desk, sat down, started going through the grade book, and messed with the computer. I was locked out of my attendance and grading software for 24 hours. Little monkeys!
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:32 AM
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32. I was a sub. too, but I always made sure I circulated around the room.
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 12:33 AM by tonysam
But of course this incident is a very rare, if not unique, occurance.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:24 PM
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28. From the link:
"A male student asked a female student to perform oral sex on him, and she agreed. The substitute teacher was helping students in the front of the classroom, and her view was obstructed by other students sitting in the room."

I can believe this could occur in a crowded classroom, where students were working together in groups and the teacher was busy with one of the groups.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:49 PM
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14. Junior high schools aren't allowed to make sense. It's in the Constitution. (nt)
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:53 PM
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16. That ain't half of it, either, and I know. n/t
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:55 PM
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17. A proposed amendment also forbids them from halfway making sense, of course. (nt)
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:30 PM
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5. and this pair would have been angelic in a same sex environment?
Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 11:16 PM by Sen. Walter Sobchak
I am guessing they would have found other ways to be disruptive, this is just the shit that happens given public schools have been relegated in this country to a waiting room for prison.

I can't imagine this is the first such instance in which either student behaved in a way that would justify expulsion. The fucker was charged with violating his probation!

It is fundamentally unfair that public schools are forced to be a dumping ground for juvenile criminals.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:31 PM
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7. They'd have same-sex sex. n/t
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:30 PM
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6. Why wouldn't the teacher put a stop to that?
I couldn't possibly be on the curriculum.

Or maybe it is, I don't know what they teach kids now.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:37 PM
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8. "Hey, Tommy! Take your $%&^ out of Sally RIGHT NOW!!!"
I have no idea how all this developed in a classroom.

Possibly the sub was reading a paperback while the kids were supposed to be silently reading.

:shrug:
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:39 PM
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9. Well I suppose we should be thankful
they weren't shooting up the school. I guess this is fairly harmless juvenile delinquency. Although I suspect neither will be a huge success later in life.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:39 PM
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10. Just wait for the ambulance chasers, though
They don't miss a beat filing bogus lawsuits.
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:43 PM
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11. True, sadly
I would be surprised if this didn't end in a lawsuit, probably against the school district (sub likely doesn't have enough money to make it worthwhile).
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:49 PM
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15. It'll be a "negligence" suit
I'd bet ten cents the parents of the two kids will be the ones to do it.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:23 PM
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27. She couldn't see them.
"A male student asked a female student to perform oral sex on him, and she agreed. The substitute teacher was helping students in the front of the classroom, and her view was obstructed by other students sitting in the room."
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:11 PM
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20. I noted the middle schooler was charged with
violating his probation.

The girls always seem to go for the bad boys.

On a more serious note, junior high school teachers near me are checking the boys bathrooms because it's apparently cool for girls to go in the boys room and give out blowjobs.

I swear when I was in middle school I didn't know there was such a thing.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:20 PM
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23. there was sex going on when I was in middle school...
but with the secrecy of a torture rendition flight and certainly not "republican style"
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:22 PM
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26. This has nothing to do with sex.
This is about a complete disregard or respect for anything remotely resembling a civil society.

Our youth is screaming to us that something is terribly wrong in our culture, and yet we are
failing them miserably.
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