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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 11:40 AM Original message |
Why Obama, Duncan should read Linda Darling-Hammond's new education book |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. How does "focus on issues of school restructuring, teacher quality and educational equity" improve |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. She'd do it far better than the shitbag that's in there now. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. OK but please point out how the OP's book will lead to improvements in math & science scores. n/t |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Tell me how Arne would improve it. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I take your reply to be you don't know and that's a honest answer. n/t |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. I've not read this book but just from reading her answers in |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Curious, please describe one example of a change that improved student scores in the lowest |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. "a few suggestions that MAY improve............" n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 08:44 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Me Bad. Could you share one suggestion that MAY improve student performance on math & science scores |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 09:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Her answers to questions 2 and 3 should give you a pretty |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Sorry I'm not connecting. Do you mean Darling-Hammond's answers to questions? If yes, then do you |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. See post #11 for link. n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I give the answers to 2 & 3 below. There is nothing there that would improve math & science scores. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Here is the key in both... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Thanks for the exchange. Have a pleasant evening. n/t |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Charter school advocate horseshit. Take it elsewhere. n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Why do you start a thread and then react angrily when someone posts a legitimate question? n/t |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. 'cause she can't answer it. n/t |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. first, i wouldn't buy into those statistics altogether without researching the differences in |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Understand, I use the point merely to focus on improving math & science scores because during |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Answer: We stop micro-managing how teachers... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Agree stop micro-managing teachers but that demands a way of measuring teacher performance and then |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 10:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Yes, I believe a fair system... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Understand. How would such a system be weighted for a student's ability and desire to learn that |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I'm not sure I understand what you are asking... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. What if you had 15 of the weakest students and I had the strongest 15. Do you believe we should |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-14-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Have you been spying on my... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-14-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. The conditions you list is why I don't believe merit pay is fair. Humor below. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-14-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. ... |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-14-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Actually, this is exactly what happens now, except that you have 15 |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-14-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. This branch was from "19. Answer: We stop micro-managing how teachers..." |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-14-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. And yet, test scores on math and science are not the reason students |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-14-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. What portion of a teacher's rating is based on the test scores of students? n/t |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-14-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. 100%. There is no other criteria, because test scores are all that are used |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-15-10 08:19 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Thanks. n/t |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. not by nclb & obama's new "competitive" grants. cause the focus on nclb |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Understand but candidates in my area often proclaim our schools must do better in teaching math & |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I think your regulations for business and... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Agree 100% and if AL can compute with CA if math & science are important factors, then we should be |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-15-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #29 |
55. Science and social studies are now tested as well as reading and math. n/t |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-14-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Finland did it with a lean set of national standards. Curriculum is written |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. Darling-Hammond thinks TFA does a good job. . . |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 06:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Your cites don't support your contention. what a surprise. |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
10. D-H seems to support "incentive pay"? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I think you will find that most teachers don't support merit |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. it seems that she does - |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Fortunately, she's not the majority. It never ceases to amaze |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. but she does - |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Experience is public school teacher, co-founded a preschool, day care center, charter public high |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. I agree with some of her suggestions, as well. Hammond's |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-13-10 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
40. AND she helped found a Charter high school . . . |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-14-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. So?? Anybody can start a charter school! What's your point? n/t |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-14-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Well, she is the "darling" - no pun intended |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-14-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Sounded like snark to me. n/t |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-14-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. nope - |
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