This is a true statement and I challenge you to deny it!

[CLANG]

All educated, intelligent, fair-minded Americans support full constitutional, human, and civil rights for all.

[LostinVA]

1. I think you need to psot this in GDP, probably not here

Preaching to the choir and all.

[CLANG]

2. Actually the challenge was meant for GLBT folks.

[LostinVA]

7. That makes no sense

[CLANG]

8. Maybe not, but I still haven't had anyone refute the statement!

[GodlessBiker]

9. And if that trend continues, what will that tell you?

[CLANG]

10. That there is no problem with discrimination.

[LostinVA]

12. So, there's no problem with discrimination because we aren't fighting you?

WTF?

Shoo.

[CLANG]

13. Sorry, I guess I found my answer - I'll "shoo" now.

[Creideiki]

14. Come on, LostinVA

if we'd only listen to the straight people that come in here to lecture to us about how unimportant we are, we'll be so much better. Inequality and discrimination is easier to stomach when you shut your eyes, put your fingers in your ears and shout, "La la la!" at the top of your lungs. We've even got fucking Will Pitt espousing that idea now.

[GodlessBiker]

16. Oh, never mind. It's pointless.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

23. Go post this in GD:P

That's where it belongs if you're looking for real answers.

[TechBear_Seattle]

3. And no True Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge, either n/t

[CLANG]

4. I challenge that statement!

[Chovexani]

21. .

[GodlessBiker]

5. You can drive a bull through the hole in the barn that... I've lost my train of thought.

[saltpoint]

6. I for one hope my 7th grade math teacher's entrails are gnawed by

a giant raptor forever and ever amen.

[Creideiki]

11. Sorry, there's only so much time

I don't know if I can support the equal constitutional rights of people that won't help support the equal constitutional rights I should be enjoying.

You know, we've got such BIG problems and so little time. Maybe when we get this little thing done, we'll turn toward your little single-issue problems. You're not a single-issue voter, are you?

[CLANG]

15. Yes, many different single issues.

[yardwork]

17. If that statement is true

then there are a lot of people who are not educated, intelligent, and/or fair-minded.

[Phredicles]

19. I believe the statement is true, and that you are also right,

and that furthermore there are a lot of people who think they are all those things but aren't really.

[yardwork]

20. Logic would suggest that, yes.

[mitchtv]

18. as Adali Stevenson said to that woman

"That's not enough Madam, I need a majority"

[Mike 03]

22. I dispute it, but only on this basis: I've known many "educated" and "intelligent" (not wise, but

"intelligent" by objective standards) individuals who were not enlightened enough to support full, constitutional human and civil rights for all. "Fair minded" is another matter. I believe, as you suggest, that a person who is truly "fair minded," by definition, would support these rights for all.

The trick of the question is in grouping these three, diverse and not inherently connected, qualities of education, intelligence and fairness. And there are even differnt types of intelligence, and so forth.

[nomorenomore08]

24. To satisfy all of your conditions, then yes, I think a person would have to support equal rights.

Or at the very least, not oppose them, and not side with people who do.