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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:49 AM
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How the Obama Presidency will be
I know, it's not strictly GLBT, but it does touch on it, and I'll try to highlight where it's germaine. This is something everyone needs to keep in mind. I won't post in GD or GD:P because, frankly, those places are anti-gay cesspools, and a non-fanboi-ish take won't be welcome. As a note for the fanbois and fangirls, I'm not going to respond to your claims, so maybe start your own thread in the pit and discuss it there.

When it comes to anything progressive, including GLBT rights, Obama will go with whatever the Congress will pass along to him. It's Illinois Politics 101--if it works, then he takes credit for signing, and if it doesn't work, then he gets to blame it on Congress. But...he's not going to initiate any discussion or policy on his own. He's a coward; it's really not his fault, he came into politics from Illinois, and it's coloring his worldview.

So what we need to do is convince 4 Republicans to vote for Cloture, and get 51 total votes to pass in the Senate (the House is pretty much a sure thing, honestly). Get it out of Congress and Obama will either sign it. Reid is a coward of monumental proportions. Durbin is going to be busy trying to keep the conservative Democrats in line. If we can get progressive things onto his desk, he won't triangulate--he'll sign. Then duck behind, "But they PASSED IT! I couldn't stand against the will of the PEOPLE!"
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:51 AM
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1. That's pretty much it. I don't expect him to set the agenda on anything controversial
but he'll sign if we can put enough pressure on the right legislators to get it through.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:54 AM
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2. ah...if only there was an LBJ to twist arms and make them pass it. nt.
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:58 AM
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3. Even 100 Dems in the Senate would be too few
to get anything "progressive" to pass.

The House? (does "off the table" ring a bell?)

Followers, the LOT of them!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:43 AM
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4. recommend
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