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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:00 PM
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Someone posted this link on the UCC Forums. I thought you'd find it interesting.
Warren likes to claim he welcomed gay families to his church. Here's that experience from the perspective of Jeff Lutes, a staff member with Soulforce.

http://www.bilerico.com/2008/12/that_weird_hug_from_rick_warren.php
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:02 PM
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1. Rick Warren is a liar and I don't use that term lightly.
I've seen plenty of evidence to indicate that Rick Warren is a really bad person. He's a lying conniving snake oil salesman who is in this only for profit and self-aggrandizement.

He's managed to fool a lot of people but that doesn't change who he is and what he does. He's a nasty piece of work.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:13 PM
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5. Yes, yes, he is. nt
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:00 PM
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14. We're all liars
Let's be honest for just one moment.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:12 PM
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15. Sigh.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:13 PM
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16. .
:eyes:
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:08 PM
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2. Rec'd - Kick'd
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:13 PM
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4. Thanks! nt
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:09 PM
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3. It shows two things.
One, the mega church is a business..
and the evangelical kind has to attract
a certain sort of clientele who are
very likely to be homophobic.

Second, Warren is an opportunistic
rightwing hypocrite. He's one thing
to gays and something else to his
clientele. He can't be both, so when
it comes to public proclamations, he
is going to side with the clientele
who bring in the money.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:15 PM
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6. Yep. He's a fraud. nt
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:26 PM
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7. K&R
Thank you for speaking out and sharing this with us. :hug:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:28 PM
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8. My pleasure. nt
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:36 PM
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9. The invitation eventually came down to no meeting at all.
Thanks for posting this, I had read it and forgot the link.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:48 PM
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11. That quick hug from Warren and an uncomfortable meal with some of his staff.
Not at all what was originally promised. Apparently, he started trying to back out of it after the Newsweek article. My coffee table has more integrity.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:57 PM
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12. This is a strong indicator for what he will be like in the future
even after his post ME hug.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:43 PM
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17. Maybe Obama should call Rick and tell him he "may" be giving the invocation
:evilgrin:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:45 PM
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10. Very interesting--and disturbing
The more I find out about Warren, the more I fear he will use his new found fame to help only himself--he's not interested in doing anything meaningful if it means he would lose some of his power and prestige.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:59 PM
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13. Yeah. I think it's all about power. nt
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