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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:46 AM
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Please lend this your support - A personal story (sorry it is so long)
So, to many here I am kind of gruff, been called, deservedly so at times, an asshole.

I am not new to being gay, but I am new to caring about it. Allow me to explain.

When I was growing up, I always had an attitude of "get over it and move on," this has been for much of my life a mantra. I grew up MORMON on one side, and Southern Baptists on the other. I came from very poor breeding stock, and had a less that good childhood (don't believe all you read about the Mormon family). So "Get over it and move on" was a real defense mechanism, it was what kept me from falling into the same traps that I have every right to fall into.

Once outed, I never really wore my sexuality as some badge, and to this day I think that those that do are a really hurting our movement (I can go into that later if you want to debate it). For a long time I was forced to hide who I was, because the path out of the situation my family was in, the escape from the downward cycle was the military... so while many of my High School friends knew I was gay, I was not able, nor did I want, to be OUT THERE with who I was...

Fast forward a little. I meet the love of my life late in 1994, I was 4 weeks from being shipped to my new duty station outside Washington DC. I pulled some shenanigans so that I could live off base (not for public forums), and he followed me... I was active duty Air Force, and living with the love of my life. Again, being OUT THERE was not an option. Most of my co-workers knew my love, and it was just something we did not talk about publicly, or we played "Pronoun Switcharoo".

Fast forward some more... I was seriously hurt and discharged from the service... We left DC with our tails tucked under, and we headed back home, where we lived on the living room floor of his mothers house... we had NOTHING in the bank. I was discharged and handed over to the VA, because the USAF did not want to have my retirement on their budget, they would rather me have to fight with the VA. My love was beside me the whole time.

Move forward 10 years... my "Get over it and move on" had once again paid off. We are on our second home, and doing great. I had healed to the point to where I could work and we are doing well, if I tried to complain I would hope that I would be laughed out of the room.

Seeing an opportunity, My love and I went to Oakland CA from our home in a far flung burb of Washington DC (yah we came back here, Florida sucks). and we got married...

Here's a Pic ! (he is going to be mad I posted it, so look quick)


It was the happiest day in my life, I was able to show just how much I loved this man who has stuck with me in some very trying times.

I tell you all that to tell you this...

We went to go meet a friend in Castro, in SF. My husband had never been to SF, or any of CA for that matter. Before we go and meet him, we go grab some dinner... We are sitting in this small, but busy place called "Chow" (I am sure many know where I am). The server asks how we are doing, and I say, because I am so proud, "We got married today!" and what came out of his mouth is something I will never forget as long as I live "That is wonderful, congratulations!" What? Did someone just treat me like a human, and not some odd nut from Mars, as offen the case in the DC area. Where is the odd look, and the awkward smile? We have a great mean, and we drink a few beers and bask in the glow that comes from being fully accepted for the first time in our lives... The check comes, and the drinks are on the house, complements of the manager and server. Needless to say, we paid for the drinks in the tip line!

It was 9pm PST, we had been up since 4am EST (so trust me, we are tired). Our friend is on his way. We are sitting on a ledge at Harvey Milk Plaza... and just watching... we see so many people, of all shapes and colors and everything... we just watch, sitting side-by-side on a ledge waiting for a friend. Something hit me... something on my insides shattered that day. As I watched people just being themselves, and I saw that the "east coast" version of "gay" was a lot like the "Vogue" take on the women, totally unrealistic. As I sat there on a ledge at Harvey Milk Plaza, I said to myself..."Mark you have spent your whole life trying to just do a good job, and let that alone be your protest. To prove that as a gay man I can be happy, but without leading your voice to the cause, you will get nowhere..." and so, as my friend walked up to me and said, let's head down to this bar I like, my gay activism was born....

Before that day, I had never really visited the GLBT forum here on DU, been here for years, but I was not a gay activist...

When Nov 4th came I was a wreck... the happiest day of my life was tainted, and others would not be able to feel the greatness of the events... and now they want to snatch the perfect day from me... want to make it as if it never happened.

Please go here and sign this... and watch this....
http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/divorce

Thank you for letting me share with you.
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:54 AM
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1. Done and congratulations.
:hi:

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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:55 AM
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2. Nice!
Best wishes!
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:59 AM
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3. Done
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 12:00 PM by county worker
I remember seeing the yes on 8 signs in my neighborhood. To me it was people saying, "I'm for hate and intolerance."

If we can vote away the rights of gays who is next on the list. Is this all that you have to do, get enough signatures to put it on the ballot and get it passed and some other group get marginalized?

Is that the country we want to live in? Not me!
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:07 PM
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4. Which one is you in the photo?
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:08 PM
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5. I have the Van Dyke (goatee)
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:20 PM
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6. Done: You look like a very loving couple - We need more like you!
I wish to everyone who wishes to be married a loving partner, friend, companion through their life. I wish you a very long wonderful marriage! My hubby and I will be married 10 years on Valentines Day. The years go so quickly!

Here's to you!

:toast:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:31 PM
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7. Your story and your picture made me smile
Ya'll are such a cute couple. Then I went to the link and found myself in tears over that wonderful video -- all those lovely, happy, smiling couples -- I am SO happy for them -- and sad too! Signed and K&R!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:33 PM
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8. Cool.
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 12:34 PM by ThomCat
:)

Done.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:47 PM
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9. omg your story brought me to tears.
Congrats to you and your husband.

You look so happy anc content together.

I promise to not stop fighting until your right to marry is as safe as mine.
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:55 PM
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10. That made me cry.
Great post. Congratulations.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:31 PM
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11. Done.
And congratulations to you and your husband. You're such a cute couple!
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Constance Craving Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:02 PM
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12. Of course
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 02:26 PM by Constance Craving
How exciting and wonderful of a story. I love seeing people in love, y'all made my day!

edited to add: just posted the link to the courage site on my facebook page and sent it to lots of my fam and friends! B-)
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:19 PM
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13. hi neighbor!
:toast" congratulations! i'm in oakland too :hi:
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:59 PM
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14. Welcome to the forum. Question: how are you getting along with your family now?
??
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:55 PM
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17. As much as I would like, all is well
Love my mom, she loves me and my hubby. Dad is really little more than a phone call twice a year. I have a great stepdad now.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:19 PM
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15. Bless both of you. All that time of trying to be just another guy and
you found the pot of gold anyway. Shake off the past, honey. Its gone and can't be found. Do what my dogs do, live in the now and wait for the future. I know from the sound of things that yours will be good. Congratulations on all your triumphs. They were hard bought but all of it led to your life now. I am glad for both of you. :)
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:34 PM
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16. As they say
"living well is the best revenge" take that happiness and don't let them get to you. I have a dog in this fight, too. After 32 years , partner and I got hitched at the mass weddings in Palm Springs on June 21, but our real anniversary is Feb 14.... 33 years. ( I sent an email that we had married , and we got some beautiful cards and even some gifts (3 or 4) I never expected. It just shows how people treat matrimony( we had RDP'd 5 years earlier)
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:59 PM
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18. Congrats to you! You have been together for almost my whole life
<ducks>

That is great!!!
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 04:37 PM
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19. and I was not young when we met in the 70's
I was 31, he was 39
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:20 PM
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20. Thnaks for postig that and sharing your life story with us.
:pals:

It's good to remind people we are simply human beings demanding to have full rights under the law.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:42 PM
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21. Done, Partner and I will celebrate 13 years on Feb 12.
We are not legally married as we have lived in Fla and now NC.
We are thinking about going somewhere it is in the North East and do it this summer if we can raise the funds.
We have a small start up ecofarm in rural NC, 2 years on Jan20 past.
We found our neighbors to be straight, but not narrow.
He is cool his wife is like so what all we care is that your are good neighbors.
Her brothers were a little skeert at first(if they were not married..they are real wuffy!smile), but once they got to know us a little they were 'oh okay then'.
Now we are just part of the community.
The area we live in is much like the fictional Mayberry, every one is polite and nice.
I have lived in Alabama where the neighbors ran a mounting terror campaign against me and my then partner, from banging on the door early am on weekends to 'bring us gawd' to bottles thrown against the house that culminated with an attempted cross burning..and me shooting them in the asses as they ran away like cowards, with a 12g pump loaded with rock salt.
I am glad we are making progress.
I was so disappointed that Prop h8 passed.
We joined the protest with about 300 others on the sidewalk in front of the Greensboro City Hall/Police department door way..the cops were there to watch over us not Watch us. The passers by all tooted and waved, thumbs up only one cars driver gave the finger..and she will be out soon you betcha!
Freshman Senator Kay Hagen could not be there, but she has helped block the anti marriage amendment to the NC constitution for several years as a State General Assembly Senator from Greensboro, which is where we lived until moving to our farm in Caswell County. We hope to see good things out of her in WDC.
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The Brethren Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:57 PM
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22. Done deal!
And thank you for sharing your story and the picture of you and your partner. I pray that Prop. 8 is somehow overturned and you and your partner, like other gay couples, are allowed to be viewed and protected by CA law as married couples.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:18 PM
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23. Beautiful story!
Thank you for sharing it, from another Oaklander. My cousin came out to visit me some years ago, and "came out" to me while she was here. I tried to get her to move here, too, but she wanted to stay close to her family on the East Coast. She was amazed at the sight of same-sex couples just hanging around pushing strollers and doing shopping around town. She and her partner have an insanely cute little redheaded girl now. Everyone should have the same rights. It's the right thing to do. Dammit!

I signed.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:48 PM
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24. May I say...
"That is wonderful, congratulations!" :toast:
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:13 PM
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25. Ah! Just LOOK at you!
Your post makes me happy
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 09:11 PM
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26. Great photo (you two look so in love, and it's heartwarming)!!
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 09:11 PM by northofdenali
Great story.

:hug:

K&R edited to add - also signed!
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 11:28 AM
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27. Thanks for this post, and congratulations on your marriage!
:toast:

That's a great pic. Very sweet.

Glad to have you in this forum!
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